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#1 vxr36

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:04 PM

Phone call today
Andrew, Its John Thorne.
Just a coutesey call.
Just had a conversation with John at Courtenays explaining what was wrong with the car etc.
Courtesey call, unless we have our payment of our invoice received here in the next seven days I shall be issuing proceedings.

Just thought I would let you know

OK? Cheers! (in a very condescending manor with the cheers bit sounding like Iain Beale).

2 things here... 1) I don't have an invoice... In fact I paid £1500 in good faith the last time I was at TMS on 29th October.

2) I had this a little while ago which I thought was prudent on behalf of TMS in light of events but John seems to have back tracked (after I had maintained my silence even though it gaulled me).
From: John Thorne [mailto:John@thorneymotorsport.co.uk]
Sent: 15 January 2008 23:25
To: Andrew Sullivan
Subject: RE: VXR36 WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Andrew,

I've had time to reflect on your email and note you are unprepared to actually note down the actual faults with the car you say both Plans and Courtenay note. Your comments on fire damage are strange seeing as I'd already offered to replace the bootlid already?

On a Without Prejudice basis I am prepared to not pursue the outstanding invoice on the basis that matters are kept confidential, this means both written and oral. Should information come to light that this is not the case I will have no hesitation in issuing proceedings to recover the amount outstanding.

John


The FULL story will be posted here either tonight or tomorrow and I guess I should look forward to the promised solicitors.

Edited by vxr36, 25 January 2008 - 06:05 PM.


#2 Guy182

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:05 PM

so basically he was going to pay you to keep quiet?? :rolleyes: **note the question marks.

Edited by Guy182, 25 January 2008 - 06:20 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:06 PM

:o

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:15 PM

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Edited by sworks, 25 January 2008 - 06:19 PM.


#5 Ekona

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:20 PM

I want to hear both sides before jumping on any bandwagon.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:22 PM

Shocking!! Yours and Mikes case are the main reasons i decided to make an 8hr return trip to Courtenay's for the work on my car and will continue to do so. Im sure this thread will be locked soon :rolleyes:

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:23 PM

I want to hear both sides before jumping on any bandwagon.


If it was anything like my experiences with TMS (even though Andrew has spent a lot more money with TMS than myself) i can completely understand his frustrations!!

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:24 PM

:yeahthat: If you have a bandwagon I'd be careful where you get it serviced! :P

Edited by VIX, 25 January 2008 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:31 PM

See, I've only ever had othing but fantastic service at TMS, and I've been there when mistakes have been made (quite big ones, too), yet John always seems to work things out for the customer. From what I've seen here so far it would appear that he's (or his company) seriously cocked up this time, and he's not really rectified it at all. Hence the reason I'd love to hear the full story before I pass comment. I know that this site has it's fair share of TMS haters as well as people who worship JT, but all I say is that I don't want to place myself in either camp until I know the facts from both sides.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:37 PM

I think you'll find many of the so-called "TMS haters" have suffered appalling service at TMS whilst a lot of the "people who worship JT" haven't had any significant work done by him at all and are just sucking up.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:44 PM

I guess I sit somewhere in the middle of that then having had major work done at TMS and coming away fully satisfied, but there you go. I'm not sticking up for anyone one way or another, just trying to prop my lardy arse up on this fence. :lol:

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:46 PM

vxr36 has said he's going to post his full story. Maybe its best we all wait until then before doing the judge & jury thing. And no doubt John will have his own viewpoint. Really boring if this just becomes a Courtenay fans vs TMS fans vs Plans fans thread.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 08:32 PM

Im not a fan of either but i know who I dont trust with my car or money... And it doesnt begin with....... do dealer is perfect but a "specialist" should be so no mistakes should be made, especialy big ones...

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 08:44 PM

£5 says this thread goes missing by the morning...

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 08:49 PM

Irrespective of what has happened here, it would have been fairer to post the full story rather than a "teaser" which seems to intend to stir. However it looks like this is now a legal issue, so probably should not have been posted at all until resolved.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 08:52 PM

£5 says this thread goes missing by the morning...

I certainly hope not, as if it does then there would be many unhappy people

Edited by Bletch, 25 January 2008 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 08:56 PM

Irrespective of what has happened here, it would have been fairer to post the full story rather than a "teaser" which seems to intend to stir. However it looks like this is now a legal issue, so probably should not have been posted at all until resolved.


:yeahthat:

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 08:56 PM

Well there's a surprise, Andrew decides not to pay a £3k bill, I try to mediate to come to an amicable conclusion by at least trying to calm things down and this is the result. Bottom line, the full facts will never come out here due to the fact that it will be twisted and tweaked to make us look bad. Needless to say we have begun legal proceedings to recover the money owed and as such any comments here would be ill advised. I will not be taken for a ride by someone who was made fully aware of time frames and delays and who has chosen to use these as a method to avoid payment. I will let the court decide who is right or wrong, not be judged by half facts, un truths or idle gossip.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 09:01 PM

£5 says this thread goes missing by the morning...

I certainly hope not, as if it does then there would be many unhappy people



indeed, but as its not an unbiased forum to publicise such information it would not be a surprise at all.....

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 09:03 PM

£5 says this thread goes missing by the morning...

I certainly hope not, as if it does then there would be many unhappy people



indeed, but as its not an unbiased forum to publicise such information it would not be a surprise at all.....

I think if it was deleted/locked etc the damage would be huge and mostly to TMS as the accusations would be of a cover up, so would doubt JT would allow it to be deleted or locked




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