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Does The Vxt Have An Lsd?

Started by pwig , Jan 06 2004 12:06 AM

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#1 pwig

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 12:06 AM

Just a quickie, does the VXT have an LSD?

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 12:12 AM

LSD? It's a pretty expensive tab of LSD but it sure gives one hell of a trip, and the thing is, you ain't hallucinating, it's real ;)

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 12:15 AM

LSD?

It's a pretty expensive tab of LSD but it sure gives one hell of a trip, and the thing is, you ain't hallucinating, it's real ;)

Thanks for that informative and knowledgeable answer :rolleyes: :P :lol:

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 04:52 AM

No.

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 07:37 AM

No.

04:52 - :o

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 08:05 AM

Got a lot on today so I got up at 4am to make sure I can get it all done :(

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 08:28 AM

OK I'll volunteer to appear ignorant...Whats an LSD?

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 08:34 AM

OK I'll volunteer to appear ignorant...Whats an LSD?

Limited Slip Diff (not what you were thinking) :P

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 11:27 AM

Got a lot on today so I got up at 4am to make sure I can get it all done :(

There's dedication for you.

But Roy Castle had dedication and look what happened to him!

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 12:13 PM

Glad someone brought this up. It's the one thing that let's the VXT down for me. I admit it didn't bother me when I had my test drive.. the car was still incredibly good fun. Just wish it did have an LSD... Suppose the next question is whether anyone makes an aftermarket one for it? -andy-

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 02:36 PM

What advantages would a Limited Slip Diff bring, e.g. better traction out of tight wet turns, more controllable power oversteer etc?

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 03:01 PM

Those are a couple. More "grip" for cornering and getting the power down the main ones. I guess it makes it slide a bit quicker when it finally lets go since you lose grip to both wheels at once, rather than just the inside wheel spinning up. But that's half the fun.... Plus it 'donuts' better... :D Seriously though, it wouldn't stop me buying one, but it would be a nice option, and one I'd probably take. Even my MX-5 had an LSD.... -andy-

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Posted 06 January 2004 - 05:56 PM

OK I'll volunteer to appear ignorant...Whats an LSD?

Limited Slip Diff (not what you were thinking) :P

whoops! Obvious really. Soz :(

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Posted 07 January 2004 - 11:02 PM

Those are a couple. More "grip" for cornering and getting the power down the main ones. I guess it makes it slide a bit quicker when it finally lets go since you lose grip to both wheels at once, rather than just the inside wheel spinning up. But that's half the fun....

Plus it 'donuts' better... :D


Seriously though, it wouldn't stop me buying one, but it would be a nice option, and one I'd probably take. Even my MX-5 had an LSD....


-andy-

The M3 has a highly evolved form of LSD called the M Differential which allows anywhere between 0% and 100% of lock. You can really feel it working. You notice how smoothly the car finishes off a corner. Very nice. B)

Cars like the VX and Elise apparently don't (particularly) need an LSD because they're light. That said, the quicker Caterhams have LSDs and they aren't exactly lardy. Maybe it's also to do with mid engined vs front engined? :unsure:

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 12:24 PM

Someone must make an LSD to fit the VX? :-/ Time to find out.... -andy-

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 12:33 PM

I guess it makes it slide a bit quicker when it finally lets go since you lose grip to both wheels at once, rather than just the inside wheel spinning up.

With the engine in the back they tend to loose it pretty fast anyway, so a LSD would add to that and make catching it even more difficult :o

The donuts would be cool, but you would probably need bigger front tyres as it just understeed thru rather that spin around at the moment...

Obviously, both points be complete and utter bollocks :unsure: :D

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 12:48 PM

There is one for sale in Germany, of the torsen type. Look on this site
http://www.eds-motorsport.de/

for differenzialsperren!

Gesundheit yall!

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 02:47 PM

Fitting an LSD to the car just makes it develop more understeer. We've a Quaife torque sensing lsd (sitting under my desk now) that we tried and we decided against it. Stu

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 11:38 PM

Fitting an LSD to the car just makes it develop more understeer. We've a Quaife torque sensing lsd (sitting under my desk now) that we tried and we decided against it.

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Hrrm. Ive driven a bunch of cars with LSD and I didn't find they induced understeer. What I did find is that it increase predictabilty of "power oversteer" enormously. If you lock them up totally its still quite drivable in the dry although tyre wear can be an issue. Don't try it in the wet though.

I should like to understand this issue of induced understeer. Can you point to any papers which discuss this at a theoretical level please?

Kind regards - Ian Douglass

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Posted 20 January 2004 - 08:45 AM

Ian, Discussing understeer at a theoretical level......erm...back in a mo :blink: Stu
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