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Engine Swap On Vx220 From Z22Se To Z20Let


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#1 Guest_Daniel Foley (Guest)

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:40 AM

Hi Everyone Quick question, how easy or difficult is it to swap the standard 2.2 engine with the Z20LET or Z20LEH? I understand you have to change some auxiliary parts such as ECU, Fuel Pump, Brakes etc, but is it possible and how much does it cost? Could I do an engine change for 3k-4k? Cheers, Daniel

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:42 AM

brakes and fuelpump are same , if you are going to get a donor engine then try and get a VX one as you need all the different hoses.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:45 AM

+intercooler +exhaust +cut boot bulkhead Would be more cost effective to sell your NA and buy a turdo.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:45 AM

Also worth bearing in mind that rear clam (boot) is diffent between NA and turbo.

#5 Guest_Daniel Foley (Guest)

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:47 AM

Ahhhhh so you mean the 2.0 turbo lump from another VX? I have looked everywhere, cannot find one, any VX's being broken for parts on eBay have no engine or are 2.2 and not the turbo, Can you not just fit the standard Z20LET then? I heard Thorney can do the conversion and provide the engine but we are looking at the 6k range which is mental?

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:49 AM

Ahhhh I see, so its basically not cost effective at all, or, there is no cost effective way of doing it so I might aswell buy a turbo'd one? I really wanted to keep mine! I could let thorney have a chop at it for 6k :(, or what about turning the 2.2 into a supercharged, remapped machine?

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:51 AM

Do a search on supercharger - been covered loads of times. Basically £3k ish and you can get a stage 2 SC fitted.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:53 AM

Why go to all the hassle of changing the engine, has been done but £££ just s/c the 22se, much better IMHO,

or if you really want to get rid of money :lol:

how to get ride of money

Edited by NickB777, 18 April 2011 - 09:58 AM.


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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:54 AM

Courtenay's can do it (bottom of the page) but again, it's more expensive than their full monty SC conversion, let alone DIY or Joe & Lee conversions. If you're paying professional companies to do it, then you're going to pay a lot.

Not wanting to sound like too much of a twat here but given the problems you've had with door trims are you really up for doing an engine conversion and dealing with the issues that are likely to crop up there?

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 10:00 AM

Maybe the best thing would be to say what you are trying to achieve, then people with far more experience and knowledge than me can advise on how to reach your goal. Are you just looking for more power or is there a different reason you want to swap engines?

#11 Guest_Daniel Foley (Guest)

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 10:02 AM

I fully agree, I couldnt even sort my door trims out, but I have money, I like the idea of just giving the money to someone who can get the job done, I just want the VX to look good, and to go like shi** of a shovel :) So, Turbo vs. Supercharger? I am torn between both worlds, I'd love to supercharge the VX, but is that wise on a 2.2 engine with 140k on it?? Again, I am torn between both worlds, I dont want to pay for something like this only to knacker the engine in the process

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 10:07 AM

I fully agree, I couldnt even sort my door trims out, but I have money, I like the idea of just giving the money to someone who can get the job done, I just want the VX to look good, and to go like shi** of a shovel :)

So, Turbo vs. Supercharger?

I am torn between both worlds, I'd love to supercharge the VX, but is that wise on a 2.2 engine with 140k on it??

Again, I am torn between both worlds, I dont want to pay for something like this only to knacker the engine in the process


I love my turbo, but if i was in your position i'd have my engine rebuilt (given its mileage) with an S/C conversion. Job done...

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 10:09 AM

I am torn between both worlds, I'd love to supercharge the VX, but is that wise on a 2.2 engine with 140k on it??

Again, I am torn between both worlds, I dont want to pay for something like this only to knacker the engine in the process

Guess you need to get the health of that engine checked before making any decisions. Mine was SC'd at 60,000+ miles with no issues (until I went for more internal mods).

SebF is running a group-buy in the Group Buy section for another batch of imported compressors and inlet manifolds for a fraction over £1k. Alternatively speak to Joe and/or Lee who can offer a turnkey conversion for very reasonable rates, depending on what power level you're looking for.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 10:30 AM

For the money it would cost to pay someone to convert to the boat anchor you could rebuild the Z22SE with uprated components and supercharge to around 300bhp. Plus cars onverted to Z20LET's are worth less than a std NA if you try to sell them.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:17 AM

Sounds like a good opportunity to have a rebuild with forged internals, charge it and whack the boost up.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:24 AM

But with a rebuild, forged internals and a supercharger surely thats going to end up costing towards the 5k mark?

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:36 AM

But with a rebuild, forged internals and a supercharger surely thats going to end up costing towards the 5k mark?



only if you are a chequebook modder....

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:44 AM

Dont do it Daniel. I know what's involved and it's way too much hassle for just 300 BHP. You also introduce lots of risk that you car never works again properly.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:48 AM

But with a rebuild, forged internals and a supercharger surely thats going to end up costing towards the 5k mark?

so about the same as a z20let conversion then :rolleyes:

just buy a low mileage z22se engine for around £750, get Joe and Lee to fit a sc and for around £4k you will have 250bhp

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:58 AM

Definitely more cost effective to either supercharge, or sell your NA to buy a turbo. I would choose supercharge by a mile, depending on the implications it will have on insurance. I'd imagine a standard turbo is cheaper to insure than a SC VX, and will be much easier to find companies who will even quote you.




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