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[Wolfstone]

Anyone got a guide or done it before? In trying to help establish something for a fellow member today, I was checking if the key lock on the door overrides the central locking and can unlock a centrally locked car. I established that the central locking and key lock mechanisms aren't connected, but in doing so the door lock seems to have broken in the locked position. With the roof off I can still open the door using the internal handle but can't open the door from the outside. I think one of the pins in the lock must have dropped. The key goes into the lock all the way but simply won't turn the lock. Its worked fine before (and worked 3 or 4 times today) although I don't use the key to lock and unlock the door very often as I normally just use the central locking. I've looked in the TIS and its next to useless on how to remove the barrel mechanism from the door. http://www.vx220.org...and install.pdf I've removed the teardrop shaped cover on the inside rear edge of the door and can see the lock mechanism from there but it doesn't seem to give me enough access to the mechanism to remove it. The removal of the triangular shaped leather door trim provides no further access and I can't see how removing any of the other door panels is going to help. Can anyone help?

Edited by Wolfstone, 26 June 2011 - 05:21 PM.

[waggy]

I'd like some info on this too! My door lock is a funny thing, sometimes it works first time, other times I have to wiggle the key for a while befor it eventually opens. I think maybe the barrel or key may be worn. have you tried using your spare key?

[2.2_na]

My door lock is a funny thing, sometimes it works first time, other times I have to wiggle the key for a while befor it eventually opens.

If that's all the problem is with yours - then try spraying WD40 right into the keyhole (with the 'straw' that comes with the spray).

[Wolfstone]

have you tried using your spare key?

I've tried the spare key Andy and its just the same.

If that's all the problem is with yours - then try spraying WD40 right into the keyhole (with the 'straw' that comes with the spray).

I've also tried liberal amounts of WD40 on mine using the straw. No joy.

Given up for this evening.

[TTony]

have you tried using your spare key?

I've tried the spare key Andy and its just the same.

If that's all the problem is with yours - then try spraying WD40 right into the keyhole (with the 'straw' that comes with the spray).

I've also tried liberal amounts of WD40 on mine using the straw. No joy.

Given up for this evening.

Think you will have to take the door card's off also the window out to get to the lock fixing's got my cards off at the moment had a quick feel up towards the lock with the window up. I cant get to the lock so I think it's a case of taking bit's out unless anyone know's an easier way.
Tony

[Wolfstone]

Think you will have to take the door card's off also the window out to get to the lock fixing's got my cards off at the moment had a quick feel up towards the lock with the window up. I cant get to the lock so I think it's a case of taking bit's out unless anyone know's an easier way.
Tony

That's what I was fearing Tony. Sigh.

If I can just get the barrel to unlock...........

[TTony]

Think you will have to take the door card's off also the window out to get to the lock fixing's got my cards off at the moment had a quick feel up towards the lock with the window up. I cant get to the lock so I think it's a case of taking bit's out unless anyone know's an easier way.
Tony

That's what I was fearing Tony. Sigh.

If I can just get the barrel to unlock...........

Have you tried holding the lever open and working the key may take the pressure off the lock mechanism.
Tony

[Wolfstone]

Have you tried holding the lever open and working the key may take the pressure off the lock mechanism.
Tony

Because its frozen in the locked position there is no pressure on the lock mechanism.

[Ouchie]

Anyone got a guide or done it before?

In trying to help establish something for a fellow member today, I was checking if the key lock on the door overrides the central locking and can unlock a centrally locked car. I established that the central locking and key lock mechanisms aren't connected, but in doing so the door lock seems to have broken in the locked position. With the roof off I can still open the door using the internal handle but can't open the door from the outside. I think one of the pins in the lock must have dropped. The key goes into the lock all the way but simply won't turn the lock. Its worked fine before (and worked 3 or 4 times today) although I don't use the key to lock and unlock the door very often as I normally just use the central locking.

I've looked in the TIS and its next to useless on how to remove the barrel mechanism from the door.

http://www.vx220.org...d%20install.pdf

I've removed the teardrop shaped cover on the inside rear edge of the door and can see the lock mechanism from there but it doesn't seem to give me enough access to the mechanism to remove it. The removal of the triangular shaped leather door trim provides no further access and I can't see how removing any of the other door panels is going to help.

Can anyone help?

The barrel is just a barrel, when you turn the key it rotates the barrel which is then in a position to push on a convoluted set of push rods, that navigate their way around the window guide, which activates the door latch mechanism. When in the locked position the barrel does not push on the rods when you press the barrel with your thumb. The key barrel is on the outside of the glass, the lock/latch is on the inside. This is why I seriously doubt you can do anything to the central locking using the key. Also the reason why I aborted retro fitting central locking to mine - far too difficult to get in with the central locking effectively deadlocking the door.

Remove the teardrop shaped bit of plastic in the door and have a look, all will become clear-ish. There are 3 (iirc) almost impossible to reach nuts and bolts which hold the barrel assembly in place.
If you remove the entire door card/panel then peal away the plastic covering then you will be able to see and blindly caress the lock/latch. This looks like a very generic part with a number of points for attaching rods to activate the latch and deadlocking. I believe the central locking is connected to a deadlock point and the door barrel/push button is just connected to the normal latching point. When the deadlock is "on" the barrel will do nothing when pressed. Very secure but also tricky to get into a locked car.

Not sure but if you can pull the internal door release handle it might open the door even if the deadlocks are "on". Something to check when you can, just get in lock the doors with the fob then have a tug (fnar)

[Wolfstone]

Update: Looked like the only way of replacing the door lock barrel was to strip the entire door down and remove the window. Given the fragility of the door glass as it is (rattles etc) I decided that discretion was the better part of valour and that a pikey fix was in order. This basically involved aralditing a 10p piece to the back the barrel (which I could just access by removing the teardrop cover on the door edge. This widened the back of the barrel enough such that even though the barrel is in the locked position it now manages to push on the lever mechanism. Have a look and you'll see what I mean. And the car can still be deadlocked and unlocked with the central locking. Result (of sorts). Now means I don't look like a twat trying when I try to gain access to the drivers side through the passenger door. One day when I've the courage I'll replace the lock barrel. Could be a long time coming though. Anyway, just goes to show that you can't run a VX on a fiver. But you can run it on 10p.

Edited by Wolfstone, 25 July 2011 - 10:43 PM.

[Ouchie]

2p would have been cheaper Lardee dah rich folks and their extravagant lifestyles. Tut.

[Wolfstone]

2p would have been cheaper

Lardee dah rich folks and their extravagant lifestyles. Tut.

I prefer expensive mods.

[NDT]

I'd like some info on this too! My door lock is a funny thing, sometimes it works first time, other times I have to wiggle the key for a while befor it eventually opens. I think maybe the barrel or key may be worn. have you tried using your spare key?

Is this common?
Mine also does this - will try the WD40 over the weekend, but it's a bit annoying

[Curtiscraddock]

I know this is an old thread but I was looking on here as I wanted to remove my barrel. Just to let any future people know that you can remove the barrel without taking off the doorcard-5mins work, by Taking off the teardrop Removing one plastic bit of linkage removing 2 10mm bolts and sliding out the barrel