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[Zoobeef]

The accelerator seems to low compared to the other 2 which is making me struggle to heal and toe. Never had a problem on the old vx but as it was 2 years between driving them I cant say if its me or not.

[I 8 a 4RE]

You are right, I would agree. In all honesty, I find this to betruewith all road cars after you've experienced a proper race pedal box. Make shift extensions of either pedal often remove all pedal feedback. No real fix here I'm afraid in my view apart from race box. ... Said this, most people would be faster on track if they just focused on braking at the limit and focus on racing lines rather than double clutching...

[jameso]

No need to double clutch in a modern(ish car). Single clutch and blip with the clutch depressed. I have the tat pedals and find heel and toe fine in vx. It's easier when on track because you are using more of the travel of the brake pedal (because braking harder).

[I 8 a 4RE]

No need to double clutch in a modern(ish car). Single clutch and blip with the clutch depressed. I have the tat pedals and find heel and toe fine in vx. It's easier when on track because you are using more of the travel of the brake pedal (because braking harder).

Yeah agreed, but you will find that on any race driver training or obtaining your license it is still referred to as double clutching...

[jameso]

Odd! Double clutching requires you to press the clutch pedal twice (hence double clutching). You have to do this on unsynchronised manual boxes like some older lorries have. No idea why anyone would call single clutching double clutching... It's a total misnomer?!

[TheRealVXed]

But are they adjustable?

 

I find the pedal positions perfect in the NA, but in the VXR they are useless for H&T

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Heel/Toe and double de-clutching are totally different things. No need to double de-clutch in the VX but heel/toeing is very good on track.

[Zoobeef]

But are they adjustable?   I find the pedal positions perfect in the NA, but in the VXR they are useless for H&T

There must be variations in all of them then as the vxt was fine but this na when hard braking the accelerator is still further down so i cant reach it with the side or any part of my foot. I end up slipping off!

[Zoobeef]

Maybe I should just tape a block to the throttle pedle

[I 8 a 4RE]

Heel/Toe and double de-clutching are totally different things. No need to double de-clutch in the VX but heel/toeing is very good on track.

 

Well ... it may be in your experience ... but not in racing methodology. 

 

Literally copied from Speed Secrets: 

 

"The reason for double clutching is to help evenly match the rpm of the gear you are selecting with that of the engine to allow smoother meshing of the gears."

 

So yes, we are indeed talking about the same thing, but it is referred to as Double Clutching. 

[jameso]

They are literally wrong. They need to update their terminology. You now single clutch rev match (blip with clutch depressed) before a downshift. Double clutching you blip with the clutch up and the box in neutral then depress the clutch a second time to select the lower gear. You use that technique on an old unsynchronised box (the odd driver may double clutch with a modern box but it's slower so they should change their technique to the modern single clutch. I did this about 10 years ago as my double clutching technique was nearly twice as slow).

Edited by jameso, 22 August 2013 - 11:46 AM.

[slindborg]

I think the throttle pedal has slotted holes to let you move it about a bit

[FLD]

Just bend the fecker!

[AliM]

Mine is the same Mark, and other people who've driven my car on track have said they find it awkward.   If you find a good solution let me know.

[TheRealVXed]

Surely there is some kind of calibration in the pedal box?  Perhaps looking at it from that side rather than the pedal end might yeild some results?

 

 

[Zoobeef]

Mine is the same Mark, and other people who've driven my car on track have said they find it awkward.   If you find a good solution let me know.

Those of you on my Facebook will know I'm having a really busy day so I'll look into it tomorrow. I think I'll take the whole pedal assembly off, if I can get under the wheel with my huge chest, and have a good look.

[Duncan VXR]

Just bend the fecker!

saved me posting that lol DG

[Zoobeef]

Finally got round to looking at this.
This is how my pedals looked from the side



Took the pedal off (bit of a pain)

Then when you remove the bolt in the picture below holding the arm on youll find its just a press fit. Pull the arm off and move it and put the bolt back in. Jobs a good en.
Granted my pedal has a bit more travel now before it hits the bump stop but will just mean the last inch of movement will already be at 100% throttle position. Ill stick the op com on later tonight to have a look.
Not test drove it yet but im hoping a moved it enough as i just guessed 'a bit'

Edited by Zoobeef, 12 November 2013 - 04:38 PM.

[harboged]

Finally got round to looking at this.
This is how my pedals looked from the side



Took the pedal off (bit of a pain)

Then when you remove the bolt in the picture below holding the arm on youll find its just a press fit. Pull the arm off and move it and put the bolt back in. Jobs a good en.
Granted my pedal has a bit more travel now before it hits the bump stop but will just mean the last inch of movement will already be at 100% throttle position. Ill stick the op com on later tonight to have a look.
Not test drove it yet but im hoping a moved it enough as i just guessed 'a bit'

 

Did this work out well? I also find the accelerator to be too low compared to the brake pedal.

[Zoobeef]

Yeah its fine. Bending it would also have worked.