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[nr46]

Hi All,

 

Some advise please....

 

Started to get some clutch slip in 4th gear in my VXT, which I take as the start of a clutch on the way out.

 

Any recommendations on a replacement - go for OEM spec or is there a good (& good value!) upgraded version?

 

Running at stage 2 spec, so perhaps need something upgraded for the extra torque?

 

Thanks

 

Nick

[siztenboots]

check to see if there is a clutch return spring on the pedal

[Rickwoo118]

I had the same at stage 2 and went for an uprated helix clutch. That wy if you want to upgrade to more power the clutch can handle it.

[Guy009]

Just in case you were thinking of chancing it, do yourself and your mechanic a favour and DO NOT buy the 4 or 6 paddle clutch from techniclutch/national clutch centre on ebay.

 

I have the helix 6 paddle.

[Rickwoo118]

Just in case you were thinking of chancing it, do yourself and your mechanic a favour and DO NOT buy the 4 or 6 paddle clutch from techniclutch/national clutch centre on ebay.   I have the helix 6 paddle.

Are they that bad?

[Nev]

Just in case you were thinking of chancing it, do yourself and your mechanic a favour and DO NOT buy the 4 or 6 paddle clutch from techniclutch/national clutch centre on ebay.

 

I have the helix 6 paddle.

 

Please can you tell us why exactly?

[Guy009]

It slipped like an eel on greased ice, when separated for inspection some of the paddles hadn't even mated fully with the flywheel or pressure place, as if they were twisted, sections of these paddles were still untouched as when it came out of the box. still waiting on refund, it has been 'sent back to eastern Europe to establish whether it was a manufacturing defect or installer error'.

 

Just google techniclutch (since gone bust and reinvented as Nationwide or national clutch centre or supplier or whatever, but still techniclutch on ebay)... read on the audi forums, jap forums - granted you get the idiots but I know of someone else who bought one for a vxt and it slips.. and they have just accepted it as it only slips on a firm-ish launch. Once the clutch has slipped it will slip through all gears until you give it a mile or so to cool down.

 

Add to that the cheap copy CSC and the hammerited-red standard-looking clutch cover plate and you'll wish you just bought the helix straight off and saved the double labour bill.

 

I am slightly comforted and simultaneously worried that some people have gone as far as posting the managing directors home address online and have been able to eventually get refunds in cash from him at his front door... :-S

 

You might argue that this is an isolated incident, or that the installer made a mistake. But the installer has run over £10k on account for clutches through his AP and Helix clutch supplier in the first 6months of the year, with a good portion of that being zlet's so I firmly trust his abilities

 

Its enough for me to want to make others aware of my experience.

 

if you don't e.g. want to go to santa pod or do a spirited launch/hard change into 2nd it will probably cope - but to be honest the standard clutch would probably do it better.

 

In my opinion I have been "Solid F**ked" to the tune of £270 + labour and kick myself daily for not following advice.

 

if i'm being out of order here please delete the post and I will shut up :-)

 

[turbobob]

It's not uncommon for the clutch to start slipping for a stage 2 VXT. I was lucky, mine didn't start slipping until stage 3. But that wasn't because it was worn out, its just the standard parts cannot handle the extra torque.

 

I have a Helix 6 paddle. But it is crucial whilst you are upgrading your clutch to upgrade the pressure plate also. And it is highly recommended to replace the slave cylinder too whilst it's all apart. Finally, if you ever fancy a lightened flywheel, this is the time to do it whilst the gearbox is off, as half the cost of a clutch replacement is the labour.

[Bargi]

It's not uncommon for the clutch to start slipping for a stage 2 VXT. I was lucky, mine didn't start slipping until stage 3. But that wasn't because it was worn out, its just the standard parts cannot handle the extra chavy redline launches at the lights against Cora's

Fixed it for you Bobby

[Nev]

It slipped like an eel on greased ice, when separated for inspection some of the paddles hadn't even mated fully with the flywheel or pressure place, as if they were twisted, sections of these paddles were still untouched as when it came out of the box. still waiting on refund, it has been 'sent back to eastern Europe to establish whether it was a manufacturing defect or installer error'.

 

Just google techniclutch (since gone bust and reinvented as Nationwide or national clutch centre or supplier or whatever, but still techniclutch on ebay)... read on the audi forums, jap forums - granted you get the idiots but I know of someone else who bought one for a vxt and it slips.. and they have just accepted it as it only slips on a firm-ish launch. Once the clutch has slipped it will slip through all gears until you give it a mile or so to cool down.

 

Add to that the cheap copy CSC and the hammerited-red standard-looking clutch cover plate and you'll wish you just bought the helix straight off and saved the double labour bill.

 

I am slightly comforted and simultaneously worried that some people have gone as far as posting the managing directors home address online and have been able to eventually get refunds in cash from him at his front door... :-S

 

You might argue that this is an isolated incident, or that the installer made a mistake. But the installer has run over £10k on account for clutches through his AP and Helix clutch supplier in the first 6months of the year, with a good portion of that being zlet's so I firmly trust his abilities

 

Its enough for me to want to make others aware of my experience.

 

if you don't e.g. want to go to santa pod or do a spirited launch/hard change into 2nd it will probably cope - but to be honest the standard clutch would probably do it better.

 

In my opinion I have been "Solid F**ked" to the tune of £270 + labour and kick myself daily for not following advice.

 

if i'm being out of order here please delete the post and I will shut up :-)

 

 

Blimey, thanks for posting that up, hopefully it will save others on here from falling foul of yet another woefully crap motor parts supplier.

 

Best of luck fitting something tougher.

[Paulus H]

Personally I assume ebay is the worlds biggest magnet for crooked sellers. On the rare occasion I purchase from ebay, if the goods are halfway as described I count this as a success.

 

Kind regards, Paul

[YorkieAndrew]

Personally I assume ebay is the worlds biggest magnet for crooked sellers. On the rare occasion I purchase from ebay, if the goods are halfway as described I count this as a success.   Kind regards, Paul

Probably a lot of truth in that statement but when you need something it'll no doubt be sold on eBay in at least one form or other so the positives outweighs it for me. Re a new clutch. I had the same issue a while back - opted for the 'comp' clutch (helix) from Courtenay rather than paddle. Personal preference in the end I think. Stage 2 may well be fine with their 'uprated' version at half the price. I believe this is a Sachs product.

Edited by YorkieAndrew, 31 August 2013 - 12:26 AM.

[turbobob]

It's not uncommon for the clutch to start slipping for a stage 2 VXT. I was lucky, mine didn't start slipping until stage 3. But that wasn't because it was worn out, its just the standard parts cannot handle the extra chavy redline launches at the lights against Cora's

Fixed it for you Bobby

Who's cora?

[ratboiler]

I have a sach's clutch fitted and consider it too on or off, so when the time comes I will replace it with something else.

[nr46]

Thanks all. Especially enjoyed the deviation off topic for ebay !

 

I don't think I'll go past stage 2 with mine - so appears that moderately upgraded will be sufficient, Helix or Sachs.

 

Cheers

 

N