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[Aerodynamic]

Have anyone done this? I ve been looking for wheels a long time and almost anything is better then what we have! Looking for Japwheels is where I can find most interesting wheels for good prices. And then we are talking about 114, 3/5 also 100/5 could be a option. Have anyone tried to make new bolt patter inte std hubs? An other option I supose is to buy Elise hubs and get 100/ 4. Nr, Per

[techieboy]

Wouldn't it have been easier to buy an S2000 in the first place, instead of gradually morphing your Speedster into one?

[Aerodynamic]

You got a point there techieboy, but my wife wanted me to buy the speedster. :-) Naa, I just want the best from different worlds I supose. And the engine was a left over from a previous project.

[Asheey]

[Arno]

Re-drilling/tapping for 100/5 is probably not that big of a problem. Not sure if there is enough space/metal to the edge of the hub itself to go to 114.3/5 though.

 

100/4 is easy with just a hub change but the drawback there is that many, relatively commonly available, (japanese) wheels are not available in more than 7J or 7.5J with this PCD. They quickly go to 5-bolt wheels for wider ones.

 

Bye, Arno.

[Rosssco]

Re-drilling/tapping for 100/5 is probably not that big of a problem. Not sure if there is enough space/metal to the edge of the hub itself to go to 114.3/5 though.

 

100/4 is easy with just a hub change but the drawback there is that many, relatively commonly available, (japanese) wheels are not available in more than 7J or 7.5J with this PCD. They quickly go to 5-bolt wheels for wider ones.

 

Bye, Arno.

 

I've had a good look at a hub, and I'm no machinist, but there is no real 'room' on the hub flange to allow redrilling for another PCD. Certainly not 114.5. You would also have to weld fill the existing threaded holes. Alot of work and I'd never be 100% sure on this type of modification. Plus the heat from the welding process may affect the bearing and / or ABS sensor..

 

Two options are available however dependant on how much you really want different wheels:

 

1. - You can fit some 5x112 PCD (some German cars have this fitment) using offset PCD bolts, AKA "wobble bolts". There alot of scepticism about these, but you can buy proper TuV approved bolts, and were originally developed by Fiat or something (that may not reassure you however ). You will obviously need some form a spigot ring to ensure correct wheel - hub alignment. This is even more critical is using wobble bolts!

 

2. - Buy a set of PCD adaptors or have a set made. not many options for converting from 5x110, but some places will make up custom adaptors. Just make sure they are a reputable engineering shop that use suitable grade alloys. Either way, you'll be looking at a minimum 15mm spacer, so if you want to achieve a nominal ET30 at the rear, you restricted to a wheel with ET45. Thinking about its, S2000 wheels with theyre very high offset would be ideal..!

 

As above, I'd convert to 4x100 PCD. Plenty wheel options of various types and sizes available, including obviosuly all S2 Lotus wheels..

[slindborg]

TuV approval is all about filling in forms.... not about engineering

[Rosssco]

TuV approval is all about filling in forms.... not about engineering

 

I'm sure you're right there! The power of the stamped up certificate...

[slindborg]

Dilbert mods are proof of this... they are very mediocre but everyone wanks themselves silly because they have the TuV stamp.

 

[Aerodynamic]

Looking nice. Any more info about this car?

[Aerodynamic]

Im not sure if wheels are casted with holes or if they are drilled afterwords?! I supose this is different from different supliers. Maybe you can order wheels with 5/110 or maybe even without a wheelpattern and drill it yourself in the wheels.

[Exmantaa]

Looked into this change too, but besides the easy 4x100 option, the only "reasonable" option i.m.o. is to change the hubs to the 5x112 VAG pattern. These normally use M14 bolts, so by drilling our 5x110 M12 holes with a 1mm offset, you come to 5x112 and are still within the reinforced hub part. (Maybe easier to do with some press-in studs.)

 

Still looking into this, as I have some Superleggera's in 5x112 and want to get rid of the wobbly bolts. Needs new/drilled discs too..

Edited by Exmantaa, 25 September 2013 - 05:09 PM.

[Aerodynamic]

Why do you want to get rid of the wobbly bolts? Any problems related to them? Br, Per

Looked into this change too, but besides the easy 4x100 option, the only "reasonable" option i.m.o. is to change the hubs to the 5x112 VAG pattern. These normally use M14 bolts, so by drilling our 5x110 M12 holes with a 1mm offset, you come to 5x112 and are still within the reinforced hub part. (Maybe easier to do with some press-in studs.)   Still looking into this, as I have some Superleggera's in 5x112 and want to get rid of the wobbly bolts. Needs new/drilled discs too..

[slindborg]

Wobble bolts are twatting dangerous that's why, and I don't break out the d word very often.

[fezzasus]

Wobble bolts are twatting dangerous that's why, and I don't break out the d word very often.

 

I've just searched your username and 'twatting' and got 8 pages of results

[Nev]

... but everyone wanks themselves silly because they have the TuV stamp.

 

 

LOL, you have a unique and pertinent view of the auto industry. 

[slindborg]

auto industry and choooning industry are very very very very very different and seperate