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#81 vocky

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 06:17 PM

and don't forget to drip some yellow Duralac onto Joe's your drive whilst fitting them :P



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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:13 PM

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:17 PM

How is the yellow shed ??? all sorted or sauteed 

Little cooking joke there  :grouphug:



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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:26 PM

How is the yellow shed ??? all sorted or sauteed 

Little cooking joke there  :grouphug:

very poorly :(  



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Posted 13 October 2015 - 10:29 PM

Just for info oem shims are not zinc plated - Its geomet or dacromet



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Posted 14 October 2015 - 09:06 AM

Just for info oem shims are not zinc plated - Its geomet or dacromet

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]I said zinc coated, not plated.[/font]

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]Both materials you describe are zinc deposition systems.[/font]

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]Geomet - Passivated zinc and aluminium flakes in a binder, patented chemistry[/font]

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]Dacromet - zinc and aluminum flake in an inorganic binder[/font]

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]effectively, still zinc coated.[/font]



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Posted 14 October 2015 - 11:38 AM

 

Just for info oem shims are not zinc plated - Its geomet or dacromet

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]I said zinc coated, not plated.[/font]

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]Both materials you describe are zinc deposition systems.[/font]

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]Geomet - Passivated zinc and aluminium flakes in a binder, patented chemistry[/font]

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]Dacromet - zinc and aluminum flake in an inorganic binder[/font]

 

[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"]effectively, still zinc coated.[/font]

 

 

Yes i agree - Thought people were thinking they were normal zinc electroplated - No probs cheers 



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Posted 15 October 2015 - 06:43 PM

 

Shims are on back order from Lotus :(



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 01:22 PM

 

 

Shims are on back order from Lotus :(

 

 

Yep they are still on back order at Lotus :(  I am blasting my current ones.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 02:18 PM

Blast and zinc rich primer spray � Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 02:24 PM

:thumbsup My wishbones, hub carriers and some brackets are away being blasted and zinc plated so these shims are being done at the same time 



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 03:57 PM

:thumbsup My wishbones, hub carriers and some brackets are away being blasted and zinc plated so these shims are being done at the same time 

My winter project is plating the arms etc. Can you give me an idea of the cost to get them blasted and plated

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 04:15 PM

nearest place to me is charging £80 for the blasting and £60 for the zinc plating.  That's dearer than I've seen on some posts on here but I am getting a few more things done at the same time (21 items in total)



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:18 PM

So to make this right. Take it apart. Clean the surfaces on the subframe and the Alu chassi. Duralack both sides of the shim and only the shim not the subframe not the chassi. Bolt it together with som new M12×60 screws and before duralack is dried. Then try to seal it from the outside. Are the screws std Hex head and 8.8 quality? Any risk the duralack Will remove the friction? Br,Per

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:19 PM

nearest place to me is charging £80 for the blasting and £60 for the zinc plating.  That's dearer than I've seen on some posts on here but I am getting a few more things done at the same time (21 items in total)

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:27 PM

So to make this right. Take it apart. Clean the surfaces on the subframe and the Alu chassi. Duralack both sides of the shim and only the shim not the subframe not the chassi. Bolt it together with som new M12×60 screws and before duralack is dried. Then try to seal it from the outside. Are the screws std Hex head and 8.8 quality? Any risk the duralack Will remove the friction? Br,Per

 

What I've done so far:

 

cleaned the subframe mating surfaces

Cleaned the chassis mating surfaces and brass brushed the pits etc

Blasted and zinc plated the existing shims as they are not available from Lotus

ordered the lotus bolts (A075W2070Z - M12x60, qty = 4) and 2x nuts 

 

What I am about to do:

duralac both sides of the shims

when duralac is tack dry, fix subframe to chassis

torque bolts/nuts to 45nm

have a beer.


Edited by Raptor, 31 March 2017 - 08:31 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:29 PM

Do the bolts have a strength stamped on them?

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:32 PM

Do the bolts have a strength stamped on them?

 

yep just checked my new ones = 8.8 :thumbsup



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:36 PM

oh and i've sprayed the complete subframe in silver zinc galvanising spray.  It now looks fit to go to space.



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:39 PM

Ok sounds Good. Bit 45Nm is a bit low for M12!?

So to make this right. Take it apart. Clean the surfaces on the subframe and the Alu chassi. Duralack both sides of the shim and only the shim not the subframe not the chassi. Bolt it together with som new M12×60 screws and before duralack is dried. Then try to seal it from the outside. Are the screws std Hex head and 8.8 quality? Any risk the duralack Will remove the friction? Br,Per

  What I've done so far:   cleaned the subframe mating surfaces Cleaned the chassis mating surfaces and brass brushed the pits etc Blasted and zinc plated the existing shims as they are not available from Lotus ordered the lotus bolts (A075W2070Z - M12x60, qty = 4) and 2x nuts    What I am about to do: duralac both sides of the shims when duralac is tack dry, fix subframe to chassis torque bolts/nuts to 45nm have a beer.






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