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#21 Tony H

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:36 AM

Think you guys are talking about different heads lol.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:04 AM

While I agree it looks a mess and badly executed, I do think some people on there comenting on how wrong things are should realise how little they know too instead of the load of crap they post. Eg "the long diffuser will make too much downforce too far back." Not how diffusers work.

#23 Mike (Cliffie)

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:56 PM

He wants to run that in Club RWD Time Attack next year.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:07 PM

He wants to run that in Club RWD Time Attack next year.

 

I read that... On looks alone that ought to be in ClubPro RWD.

 

Will be interesting to see it competing and I would be interested in knowing who his 'racing' support individual is.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:12 PM

It aint me Chris...

 

He is very much Club and not Club Pro



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:22 PM

I've GOTTA see that race in TA :lol:



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:22 PM

Is the Doc consulting for him :)



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:32 PM

Is the Doc consulting for him :)

You kinda hope not.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

http://forums.overcl...18527080&page=7

 

Makes Nev's rear wing look subtle:

 

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Looking at this I ask myself.... why not just bold on a toe hitch and drag around a trailer?  :mellow:



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 04:50 PM

Looks terrible very bad lol

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 07:08 PM

It's a highly amusing read though. I'm genuinely interested to read how the TA season pans out for this chap.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:30 PM

I like the wheels

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 09:10 AM

I really do wish him the best of luck. I am concerned about the rear aero but as any aero package on these cars, it is suck it and see. We hit it right this year right up to the point we had to reduce the size of the front splitter. After that we had slow speed understeer issues.

 

Good on him for having a vision and giving it a go.



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:28 AM

He seems to be a nice enough chap and is very enthusiastic. He's been asking me for some of my data from wind tunnel testing and for some pointers, but then gone and done pretty much everything completely differently, because he doesn't want to copy me. The way some of the stuff is done is 'questionable', but hey ho, it's not my car. In my opinion, any money he's spending needs to go on safety first (he hasn't got a cage), then the chassis, engine and so on. Then aero last.

 

I wish him all the best too, but unfortunately I think he's going to find out the hard way just how difficult this stuff is to do properly and with a small budget. I'd say almost impossible. Aero can be amazingly effective and one of the best ways to reduce lap times, however it's also an absolute bastard to get your head round, even when you have some very clever people helping you.



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:29 PM

Can't be arsed to register on there to mention it. But is it not better to just raise the spoiler into clean airflow rather than moving it back like he has?

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 06:21 PM

OP is here too....
http://www.vx220.org...7-turbotoaster/

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

Getting the nose right down with a big and strong splitter is the key thing in my experience/testing. Good on him for experimenting though, more than 95% of keyboard warriors ever try.



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 07:27 PM

 

 

 

 

 

You should see where he's bolted his turbo!!

to the back of his head I hope 😀  
About six inches directly behind his head with only a thin panel in between. If it doesnt cook his head it'll take it off when the turbo lets go. 300bhp from a K series!!!! It'll be like a grenade with the pin hanging out  
  i run my turbo closer to the head than he does with no issues, i do agree regarding the car seems a little over kill in terms of aero! 
Yet

 

 

2 years, 4 hard dyno sessions in car and on bench dyno and use in the car says other wise but appreciate your concern  

 

It wil be fine...........................................right up to the point where it all goes wrong



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 10:22 PM

Well im glad to be famous on here.

 

I do a fair bit of reading on here to gleam any bits of hints, tips and also I enjoy reading peoples project threads, ive known about this thread for a couple of days and havent said anything to see what comments im getting.

 

In regards of the actual setup of the vehicle, ive been searching for as much advise as I can, having chris randall set the car up(toe, caster, camber etc) and also coming up with my own solutions for wishbone angles to allow me to run lower to help with aero and COG.

 

Running a very large splitter, canards and end fences, this with my skirts I hope will be enough to balance my wing at a decent AofA, the good thing is though that even if theres not alot of downforce produced by the front I can just wind the wing back(i shouldnt need to as im following the theory of my aerodynamics book closely.

 

Im sure your loving the idea of turbocharging a rover k series, but im bringing on someone who knows turbod k series fairly well(he did work on the 217mph car) and is  very confident he can get a 350bhp engine to hold together as long as we can keep the water temps sensible.

 

As Nev says, least im trying and doing things my own way, I would rather try, fail and learn from it then sit behind a keyboard and wonder.

 

If I followed what everyone on that thread said I would have still have stock elise bodywork, have spent £15000 on a supercharged honda engine(which I cant afford) and wonder why im coming last.

 

Im building mine with the aspirations of winning my class and my ideas reflect my budget, as they say, you can tame a fast car, you cant make a slow car fast.

 

 



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 10:29 PM

Not my cup of tea but you seem to have a good attitude. Good luck buddy thumbsup

 

 






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