19 replies to this topic

[Gedi]

Just spotted this on ebay. These things only weight 115kg, they make the NA look like a lard arse

 

Would love to see one in a VX

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cdae5bb27

[jonnyboy]

Z22se with charger is a LOT better

[JG]

and not a lot heavier

 

[Matthew Bentley Racing Ltd]

You have to do a lot more to a 2zz than you do to a z22 to make them as reliable.

[Rosssco]

115kg is a bare engine. Add 10kg at least for a complete engine. Then it's not far off a Z22SE.

[jonnyboy]

Gearboxes are made of cheese too

[Silent Steve]

... but apart from the Z22Se being a lot better, the marginal weight improvement, the fact that this is a bare engine, the huge expense of making it reliable and the utterly unreliable gearboxes, this seems like a great idea, no? 

 

[jonnyboy]

Yota engines seem like a good idea when you've had your 4th hgf on a k series but I'm sure they wouldn't have been Lotus' first choice.

Edited by jonnyboy, 13 January 2014 - 12:10 PM.

[Mangham54]

Yota engines seem like a good idea when you've had your 4th hgf on a k series but I'm sure they wouldn't have been Lotus' first choice.

They came as a second choice to the K-series lump. I was surprised that Lotus didn't use the Honda VTECs, as in many ways they are the spiritual successor to the K-series engine.

Edited by Mangham54, 13 January 2014 - 12:31 PM.

[vocky]

115kg is a bare engine. Add 10kg at least for a complete engine. Then it's not far off a Z22SE.

I weighed my old 2.2 engine and it came in at 103 Kg without ancillaries 

Edited by vocky, 13 January 2014 - 12:36 PM.

[jonnyboy]

Honda was the first choice on the s2 but they didn't convince honda their cheques wouldn't bounce! Hence the relatively easy k20 conversions.

[Winstar]

Yota engines seem like a good idea when you've had your 4th hgf on a k series but I'm sure they wouldn't have been Lotus' first choice.

No they seem like a good Idea when you know how much Toyota charged Lotus for them, and the fact the K series wasn't Euro Iv whatever it was back then

[mark_vx]

This is what you really want - a bit more expensive I know much just imagine:-

 

link

 

I think it fits cos they put it in the Exige (The Exige S V6)

 

We can but dream

[Gedi]

The S3 exige is longer and wider than the previous versions. Not sure if this effect the engine bay dimensions though

[Nev]

It's not just about weight, it's more to do with power:weight that is important IMO. Also, extra weight over the rear axle can help if you are bold, and can adjust to weight transfer depending on whether you are accelerating/deaccelerating.

[Mangham54]

The Exige V6 is huge in comparison, so I very much doubt that it would fit.

[jonnyboy]

70mm stretch and some trickery with the clams

[Rosssco]

This is what you really want - a bit more expensive I know much just imagine:-   link   I think it fits cos they put it in the Exige (The Exige S V6)   We can but dream

Fits easy enough. I emailed MWR last year to see if they were planning selling a swap 'kit' to fit the Exige / Elise, but they had no plans to. They do sell a conversion kit to install the 5-speed MR2 turbo gearbox (E153 - very strong) into the S2 chassis, and that V6 engine 2GR-FE bolts directly to the MR2 gearbox (there's a few MR2s running this engine now - I had one briefly..), so in theory there is some parts available to fit it, but MWR said they weren't confident it positions the engine correctly with that specific kit, although I think they just didn't want to have a kit available so they can offer in-house conversions (which they do) http://www.monkeywre....php?pages_id=5

[Captain Vimes]

http://www.woodsport...r-fe-conversion Here's their v6 Elise conversion.... http://www.woodsport...sions-/44-lotus

Edited by Captain Vimes, 14 January 2014 - 12:38 AM.

[Captain Vimes]

Just found this clip of a s1 Elise with an r32 v6, sounds epic...