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[Gedi]

It's getting close to starting to build the front end of my car back up, which will include using adhesives to bond the following parts:

 

Windscreen frame (part 1) http://www.speedster...rame/index.html

Baffle panel (part 3) http://www.deroure.c...1&ST=A116B0195J

Footwell Air Dist (part 9) http://www.deroure.c...&SMO=0&ST=&SC=0

 

I'm still thinking about what adhesives to use. The air dist isn't a worry, this is rivited on an only needs a waterproof seal. I'll probably just use black silicone for that. However the windscreen frame, and perhaps the baffle as the frame bonds to that, are more of a worry.

 

The adhesive used from the factory seems to be slightly rubbery, perhaps partly silicone based, but is that strong enough for the windscreen frame considering it's supposed to be part of the cabin protection when the car turns over?

 

I could use tiger seal, but doesn't this dry rock hard? (I've never used it before)

 

 

Any thoughts welcome

[leevx2.2]

I think windscreen glue as that's what most of the car is glued together with crash box ,sills etc and when I replaced a sill I had a good look at the windscreen frame and it looked to be the same glue .

[jonnyboy]

The only one I would use is ct-1 power grab and bond. Check videos on YouTube it's incredible stuff.

[KurtVerbose]

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[Gedi]

I think windscreen glue as that's what most of the car is glued together with crash box ,sills etc and when I replaced a sill I had a good look at the windscreen frame and it looked to be the same glue .

 

Yeah, that makes sense. All the glue which I've removed from the front end definitely seems to be the same. I'm wondering if I should go for windscreen adhesive again, or whether I should switch to something else

 

The only one I would use is ct-1 power grab and bond. Check videos on YouTube it's incredible stuff.

 

I'm a bit wary about applying something without knowing the effect it may have to the plastic or chassis.

 

thistothat.com

 

If only they had a 'from elise windscreen frame to aluinium chassis'

[Exmantaa]

Besides the chassis bonds, our car is glued together with PU adhesive. (The windscreen stuff.)

Used for crash box bonding, windscreen frame and attaching some body panels together.

 

Take care that you use the proper PU stuff in a sealed metal cannister, as some windscreen stuff nowadays is from silicone... And use the PU primer where needed.  

[Gedi]

Thanks for the info, I guess that rules Tiger Seal out then.

 

Which PU did you use?

Maybe I should just order it from vauxhall (part no 90541160 / 93165025), it just seems so expensive from there.

 

Ricky Evans sells it here too, but it's still not cheap

http://www.heatedwin...s_and_glue.html

Edited by Gedi, 17 September 2014 - 11:22 AM.

[TubbyNorman]

Glue for less than £20 on a car that's worth a few thousand, tell me you're joking when you complain at the cost ?

[Gedi]

Where did you see me complaining?

[Gedi]

Just updating this for future searches for people that are replacing a windscreen frame or the windscreen itself.

 

I've done a bit of reading and I think I'm settled on DINITROL 501.

 

 

DINITROL 501 FC-HM

One component, moisture curing polyurethane adhesive for the direct glazing of automotive glasses. DINITROL 501 FC-HM has been designed for the needs of the aftermarket. It has fast-curing properties and excellent adhesion on old, cured or freshly cut polyurethane beads and also has a higher shear-modulus, which improves the torsion-stiffness of the car body. High modulus, fast curing polyurethane.

 

If you're just doing the windscreen, then one tube should do it, but if you're also doing a windscreen frame (like me), then you're gonna need two tubes.

If you're doing a windscreen, you also want a glass pre-cleaner (520) and a body & glass primer (530)

 

You can get a full kit with two tubes and fitting instructions for about £25 from ebay. That's about 1/3 of the price vauxhall want for the same kit. 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4ad2595089