
Always Had Diesel Accords...bmws?
#1
Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:27 PM
#2
Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:40 PM
I'd much rather have any diesel than a Honda one. They're not particularly good engines, so whatever direction you go in you'll be okay.
#3
Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:42 PM
I have owned 1s, 3s, 5s, 7s over the years. I've also had an Accord or two. BMWs are the better car, I think.
320d SE is the business. The 3.0 diesels are fabulously refined and torquey, but even the 2.0 will leave the Accord 2.2 behind.
I also had a 120DSE - goes well and can handle longs runs. If buying new get the service inclusive pack.
Just my opinion.
#4
Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:46 PM
#5
Posted 15 December 2014 - 02:57 PM
I had no issues with any of the following (in date order):
728i M - 2000 - 2002
530i M Sport - 2002 - 2003
330i M Sport - 2003 - 2005
120d SE - 2006 - 2009
730d SE - 2009 - 2011
MPG - was (respectively and approximately)
25
26
27
50
38
All in mixed driving; 12,000 to 18000 per year.
All were bought new, apart from the last 730d which I bought 8 months old.
Edited by Stevie Dubyah, 15 December 2014 - 02:59 PM.
#6
Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:25 PM
I've had my 330d coupe for about 3 years now and put ¬60k on it.. It's superb, without doubt the best car I've ever owned and will only be replaced with a 335d
#7
Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:27 PM
#8
Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:38 PM
Thanks Steve. Id be happy if I could get near that 50mpg, though a 3 Tourer must be 200-300kg more than a 1 Series hatch
Yes. But later engines are, apparently, more efficient and more powerful. Either way, I am certain you wouldn't regret the switch. Going from my 2.2 ES Coupe Accord to the BMWs was a whole universe better.
Not owned one since 2011 though. For the last 3 1/2 years have a 7 seat Volvo Diesel which gets 25mpg with a gentle right foot..... :-(
#9
Posted 15 December 2014 - 04:01 PM
BMW is probably one of the best, most refined diesels on the market, you will not go far wrong. I'd also suggest test driving a Volvo diesel too, they are underrated and are absolutely fantastic. They are not as refined as the BMW enginehowever are the most comfortable car for long-distance... I've owned both BMW's and Volvo's and took my last Volvo (S60 D5) to 45,000 miles in my first year of ownership - it was just fantastic and had no bills other than the standard service. In my experience, the BMW came a close second in terms of comfort and costs. I would look at both with an open mind and see what fits you best.
#10
Posted 15 December 2014 - 04:14 PM
#11
Posted 15 December 2014 - 07:05 PM
Stevie guarantees you will not be disappointed with a 3 touring 320d, 330d or 335d. Especially not compared to the Accord.
Our Volvo has done 17k with not a missed beat, but do I look forward to driving it? Nah.
Just be careful with M Sport - can get a bit lumpy.
#12
Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:04 PM
#13
Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:21 PM
#14
Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:32 PM
Definitely recommend the BM 3.0litre diesel. Have had three 530D and a 535D. The 535 only comes in Auto which got on my nerves but tremendously quick with over 300bhp nowadays I think. My existing 530 Tourer Manual is averaging around 37mpg. If I were in the market I would go for the new 3 series with the 3 litre diesel since it is now a decent size car. My colleague has a new 520D Auto and I have to say it does go extremely well for such a big car and he is achieving over 50mpg. I would guess therefore that the 320d must be pretty useful. It always comes first in AutoExpress comparison tests.
#15
Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:38 PM
A nice F31 320d, 325d or the lovely 330d would be my choice. The only times i've seen problems with them is when owners turn them into submarines in floods and hydro lock the engine
Just give me a message if you need any info (BMW tech)
#16
Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:51 PM
#17
Posted 15 December 2014 - 09:06 PM
Running costs are fine for the 6 cylinder beemers. My 330d m-sport gets 46mpg and insurance is only £400ish
#18
Posted 15 December 2014 - 09:43 PM
Edited by slindborg, 15 December 2014 - 09:44 PM.
#19
Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:43 AM
#20
Posted 16 December 2014 - 09:20 AM
The only times i've seen problems with them is when owners turn them into submarines in floods and hydro lock the engine
I did this. Bought a 5 series M Sport Auto brand new. It was 'kin' lovely.
Picked it up, drove towards home in a torrential downpour.
Other side of the carriageway was flooded. Our side had about 3 inches of standing water, so could be forded easily at about 25 mph.
Truck came the other way and the massive wash it created went onto our side, over my bonnet and the engine stopped.
BMW came and towed the car back to the same garage.
Outcome:
11 miles on the clock. £7.5k bill for a new engine.
How we all laughed.
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