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#1 henrik

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Posted 14 July 2015 - 04:34 PM

I have problem with oil getting out from from the cam breather to the air intake.
Engine is a Z20LET with stage 4 tuning. 32k miles. 
 
There was a problem with the big breather from the rocker cover ,
 it was totally clogged since the tube was separated from it's different layer.
  
It's fixed but this wasn't the problem. 
  
Have changed to 10W/60 oil but couldn't really see a big difference.
 
Have tried with a cam breather and a catch can but the amount of oil is just to much when turbo is loading. 
I have read a lot in this forum about oil going to the air inlet.
But this is something else it can not be normal. It's like the engine is pumping out oil when turbo is loading.
 
Just speculating here but some gasket or similar in the engine is probably broken because of the earlier problem with the clogged big breather.
 
Anyone had any similar problem or can point me in some direction?
 
 
 


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 04:47 PM

I have always got a little film of oil in the air intake but not enough to make me worry.  What I am  getting now is a bit of oil collecting in the spark plug well of the end cylinder (near the coolant reservoir) Interestingly also a stage 4 but with nearly 80,000 miles.

 

I'd be interested in any observations/experience on this too.



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Posted 14 July 2015 - 05:19 PM

Cam -> tb breather non-return valve?



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Posted 14 July 2015 - 05:47 PM

What you are likely experiencing is either positive crankcase pressure or leaking valve stem seals, most likely the first of those as it sounds quite dramatic. Positive crankcase pressure occurs when the compressed air above the piston can escape past the pistons + rings and down into the crank case. From there it is vented by the vertical black metal tube that lead up to a 90 degree silicone bend into the cam cover. The cam cover then has lots of internal baffles (hidden) that try to separate the oil vapour from the gas. The other end of the crank case then vents the gas/pressure into you inlet tract. I would suggest you take the car to a good garage that have experience of performing a leak down test, or at least a compression test. I suspect that 1 or more of your pistons/rings may be knackered :( If you wish to perform a small test yourself (to identify which of the 2 problems above it is), try this: 1. Disconnect the crank case tube 90 degree silicon bend from the cam cover. 2. Start the engine and get someone to rev it to about 5000 RPM. 3. Not much gas/pressure should be coming out of the silicone pipe. Ideally this test should be done when the engine is loaded hard (ie when the turbo is boosting hard). To achieve this you could vent the 90 crank case vent silicone pipe via some hose pipe or something into the cabin, then whilst driving (with your foot down) you can feel what pressure comes out of the pipe. If there is no pressure then it is your valve stem seals that have failed. Good luck.

Edited by Nev, 14 July 2015 - 05:56 PM.


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:59 PM

Thanks for your help!
 
I will do this test tomorrow , seems like I need a good garage whatever the outcome is.


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 08:08 PM

Take a video of the test if you do it (maybe with wool strands to show the gas flow out of the pipe), that way I can see whats coming out.

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Posted 14 July 2015 - 10:17 PM

Who's ecu map ? Mine did this on track, turned out to be a blown piston oil ring Compression test will confirm

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 06:23 AM

Courtenay sport have done the ecu map 7 years ago



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 07:46 AM

I lost about 1ltr of oil from the breather after 2 laps on track, hopefully yours is not that bad.

 

Keep thread updated with your finding, fingers crossed 



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 11:16 AM

Here is the video

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=_NjW9LCJiiY

 

Seems like a lot of gas and oil coming from crankcase



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 05:48 PM

Video is private

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 06:12 PM

ok thanks try again!



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 06:16 PM

Oh dear That Dosent look good I assume that's all coming from cam cover

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 06:30 PM

you mean crankcase, blue 90 degree tube is separated from [color=rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;]cam cover  and just pointing backwards[/color]



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 06:33 PM

Does it stop when you reconnect the blue pipe ??

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 06:45 PM

yes the smoke stops



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 06:54 PM

yes the smoke stops

Is not stopping its just being redirected. Rings/bores unfortunately



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 09:42 PM

Same as I had while at Dijon track day.. smoke everywhere Cracked piston rings on mine

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 02:20 PM

You are definitely getting cylinder blowby. That is an engine out job I'm afraid. Probably quite expensive :(

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 05:07 PM

was hoping for something else  but yes engine has to go out !






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