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#1 Johnturner

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 05:23 PM

Oem fit turbolike ears for the N/A. So no cutting, reversable extra airflow.

I have an oil leak on a Harrop supercharged VX. The filter sandwich plate is dry. The filter O ring is dry and the dipstick tube is dry. The oil seams to drip off the bottom of the charger and looks to originate somewhere between the charger and alternator there being a lot of oil on the back of the alternator. I don't know the history of the car but am pretty sure the supercharger has only done about 3000 miles, it makes no odd noises and works perfectly. The pulley end of the charger is dry. Has anybody got any ideas where the leak could be?

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 05:32 PM

Classic PCV oil leak, located between 2 and 3 cylinders on the inlet manifold

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 05:37 PM

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 05:48 PM

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This is the way I've set my Pcv up and it seems to work very well allowing fresh air in and crank press out

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 05:57 PM

Thanks for that, yes you do need a sense of humour to own a VX. Will the charger come off with the engine in situ and what is needed to cure the leak? Again thanks very much for your help.

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:01 PM

It's a build up of pressure rather than a leak
Normally it just needs vacuume from inlet pipe pre throttle ( between filter and throttle body ) but with a supercharger on and especially the HArrop to much vacuum is created which then pulls all the oil in to inlet manifold also on light loads it allows fresh air in

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Is my way of restricting the vacuum but keeping a way of getting fresh air in without restriction

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:14 PM

It's a build up of pressure rather than a leak
Normally it just needs vacuume from inlet pipe pre throttle ( between filter and throttle body ) but with a supercharger on and especially the HArrop to much vacuum is created which then pulls all the oil in to inlet manifold also on light loads it allows fresh air in

Are you saying a repair is not required and that your modification would be the cure. Would you mind telling me where you sourced the parts to make the modification, thanks again for your help.
The pic I posted
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Is my way of restricting the vacuum but keeping a way of getting fresh air in without restriction



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Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:25 PM

Which ECU software are you using ? Courtenay map requires the PCV to be blocked off, especially with a z22se cylinder head as the PCV hole is not in the correct place. A little easier with a saab head, but the SC changes the internal vacuum of the engine, so you need to figure out which style of PCV you want to use. The Harrop SC creates even more of a difference to the internal pressure.

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:28 PM

Harrop is a tight fit and can be a bugger to fit/remove. Watch the TMAP sensor as well. Not that I've done it myself, I've just watched Lee do it :D

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:35 PM

Which ECU software are you using ? Courtenay map requires the PCV to be blocked off, especially with a z22se cylinder head as the PCV hole is not in the correct place. A little easier with a saab head, but the SC changes the internal vacuum of the engine, so you need to figure out which style of PCV you want to use. The Harrop SC creates even more of a difference to the internal pressure.

Not 100% but think lee opened his up on CS map without issues maybe someone could ask him

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 07:06 PM

It is an engine built by CMS and on their map so what is the cure?

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 07:10 PM

Might be best to speak to lee2.2 or CS them selves and see what they suggest

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 07:16 PM

Thanks for all of your help I will speak to CMS in the morning. If Lee picks up on this thread I would be very pleased to hear his views.

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 07:17 PM

lee is probably too busy camping in his camper..



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Posted 03 April 2016 - 07:28 PM

lee is probably too busy camping in his camper..

He is a bit camp!

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Posted 04 April 2016 - 05:17 AM

Thanks for all of your help I will speak to CMS in the morning. If Lee picks up on this thread I would be very pleased to hear his views.

i opened my PCV up ages ago on CMS map with no problems  ,



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Posted 04 April 2016 - 05:20 AM

 

lee is probably too busy camping in his camper..

He is a bit camp!

 

kids come on now you both are more camp than me  Joe has deff got a bit of gay inside him  or had a gay inside him one of the two any way lol 



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Posted 04 April 2016 - 03:25 PM

:lol: you said you wouldn't talk about our magical moment lee :lol:

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Posted 04 April 2016 - 03:41 PM

Thanks for all of your help I will speak to CMS in the morning. If Lee picks up on this thread I would be very pleased to hear his views.

i opened my PCV up ages ago on CMS map with no problems  ,

As far as I'm aware they tried it once with Maxs car and had a problem and that was it. Lee is a slag, he'll try anything

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Posted 04 April 2016 - 04:00 PM

 

 

Thanks for all of your help I will speak to CMS in the morning. If Lee picks up on this thread I would be very pleased to hear his views.  

i opened my PCV up ages ago on CMS map with no problems  ,

 

As far as I'm aware they tried it once with Maxs car and had a problem and that was it. Lee is a slag, he'll try anything

 

you can fuuck of to i am a good boy .lol






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