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#21 CHILL Gone DUTCH

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 02:35 PM

Dont get ebc ultimax discs. They look nice but are heavy and have very small ventilation vains in the discs.

Ebc on the bottom.

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I use gulf rf1000.

And currently i use drilled and grooved discs just like your pic, (not the same make tho) and they have never cracked, im not saying they wont but ater a lot of trackdays and 20k+ they are still perfectly fine.

Anyone no what and who makes the disc above

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 02:37 PM

Can't tell if it's drilled, but if it is, it might be the Vauxhall "cross drilled discs" that were a factory option as they had properly big vents. And were reassuringly expensive. :wacko:



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:06 PM

Can't tell if it's drilled, but if it is, it might be the Vauxhall "cross drilled discs" that were a factory option as they had properly big vents. And were reassuringly expensive. :wacko:

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Does this help ID them



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 04:43 PM

On the OPs first post about MTec brakes, I've used them on the Exige, wife's Lexus, two VXs (one for racing) and two Porsches one for sprints and they've been fine (made locally to me) if you go to them direct they'll make them dimpled instead of drilled and usually throw in a litre of the cars specified fluid for free too.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:18 PM

Chill the drilled disks are the Vauxhall upgrade disks. They are available from lotus for the Europa so you could try Chris Neil's but don't expect change from £300. Also 2kg lighter than std.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 06:00 PM

when I had EP bells fitted

 

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:42 PM

RC6 pads sound like a good option but I thought they dusted pretty badly and damaged paintwork? Don't they also struggle on the road from cold? The RS14's are pretty good in both these respects if that matters to you.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:54 PM

rc6 pad are really abrasive at low temps which is probably why they feel great but they will kill your discs pretty fast really. 

 

 



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 08:12 PM

Hey all,

 

I recently had my vx supercharged. I'm really pleased with it, but now feel I need to work on improving the brakes, especially for track use.

 

I already have Pagid pads and a decent brake fluid, so they stop well, but tend to get a bit hot after about 5/6 laps.

 

I thought maybe just putting some drilled/grooved discs up front would just help my current setup. I like the look of the Elisparts belled discs, but can't really spend £300 odd at the moment!

 

Has anyone used these:

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...type=pla&crdt=0

 

If so, are they any good for just adding a slight improvment over standard discs??

 

Or any alternatives? I've read about 308mm but don't really want the added weight..

 

Quality plain discs are fine for race use.

 

If you are over heating your brakes, ducted air cooling is simple to arrange.  Braking technique is also important.  Don't ride the brake pedal. 



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:35 PM

With reference to race use. I'd imagine some of the road cars that go on track carry quite a bit more weight than a race car, especially when there are 2 (ahem) 'gentlemen' on board. Plus in many cases they have more bhp when unrestricted by race regs. Plus they have worse tyres so can't carry the corner speed and have to shed more speed to make the corner etc.. Combining the above I'd expect the brakes get more punishment in a track car than the average race car?

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 07:39 AM

Are you using RS14's? A few of us seem to have pad transfer on standard discs with the RS14's, which causes the rumble after a few laps. This was improved for me by moving to grooved discs. I swallowed the hit and went for the EP bells rather than find something cheaper.

 

I get this with RS42's. First had it on the way home from the peaks meet and it took me ages to figure out 1) What is was, 2) that its no problem. I must have stripped and inspected my brakes 4 times that week.

 

It sounds horrible but doesnt affect the braking performance, can make it go away with a couple of Pagid spec (from hand book) "reconditioning" braking events.  



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:14 PM

I bought a set of those for a seat leon cupra. Absolute s**t. Warped after one trackday and mtec not interested.

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 02:50 PM

Afternoon all,

 

I was hoping to pick this back up, as I had a Snetterton 300 track day recently and problem was worse now I'm SC'd!

 

After about 4 laps of hard driving (not riding the brakes, braking as late as I dare), the noise starts (buzzing noise) but the pedal feel is still firm, then If I push through it and do another lap or two, it starts to loose a lot of bite and the pedal starts moving further to the floor.

 

Back in the pits for 20 mins and it's fine again.

 

As a recap, I had recent uprated fluid (by Steve in Daventry) and Pagid RS14 pads.

 

I do, however, have relatively cheap standard discs from a company that's a small local shop (un-branded), so I wonder if the disc material is just getting too hot?

 

Can someone recommend a decent pair of standard or grooved discs that I can try and see if it solves it??

 

Thanks,

Jonathan



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 02:58 PM

Just get the ep bells.. never had any problems on track with the rs14 pads

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 04:38 PM

I have oem drilled discs but I'm not a tracker and there is no evidence of cracking around and between the holes. Tony_VXR_56 also had oem drilled discs. He was a prominent tracker and his front discs were danderously cracked. Make of that what you will.

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Posted 08 June 2016 - 09:53 PM

Ate powerdiscs, £62 per pair delivered. http://www.eurocarpa...earch/926880040

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Posted 09 June 2016 - 10:25 AM

Ate powerdiscs, £62 per pair delivered. http://www.eurocarpa...earch/926880040

Use code flash25 until midnight for 25%off

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Posted 09 June 2016 - 11:13 AM

Wohoo, 100% off :tt:



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Posted 09 June 2016 - 12:42 PM

rc6 pad are really abrasive at low temps which is probably why they feel great but they will kill your discs pretty fast really. 

 

 

 

not really a problem, just use standard type discs and swap them when you do your pads.

You'll get more than 1 set of pads out of the discs but the discs are so cheap it doesn't matter.

 

If you've got nice (expensive) alli belled discs this might be more of a concern :D

 

6's will create way more dust, but if you clean your car regularly it'll be fine. I don't and it proper caked at the base of the TD spokes. Hit it with some acid wheel cleaner a few times and the gunk came off but paint is fine below.

 

5's are your best bet from CL if dust is an issue, still great braking with fine dust that cleans easily.



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Posted 09 June 2016 - 12:42 PM

rc6 pad are really abrasive at low temps which is probably why they feel great but they will kill your discs pretty fast really. 

 

 

 

not really a problem, just use standard type discs and swap them when you do your pads.

You'll get more than 1 set of pads out of the discs but the discs are so cheap it doesn't matter.

 

If you've got nice (expensive) alli belled discs this might be more of a concern :D

 

6's will create way more dust, but if you clean your car regularly it'll be fine. I don't and it proper caked at the base of the TD spokes. Hit it with some acid wheel cleaner a few times and the gunk came off but paint is fine below.

 

5's are your best bet from CL if dust is an issue, still great braking with fine dust that cleans easily.






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