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#1 james4563

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Posted 16 August 2016 - 03:25 PM

I presume it's called a clutch slave cylinder still but sorry if wrong.

Anyway the bit that sticks outside the gear with the bleed nipple on, is it normal that it's loose? Doesn't feel like it's really attached to anything, turns left and right quite a bit. Noticed while I was trying to undo the bleed nipple.

 

Coming from my celica where the slave is outside the gearbox, sorry if I'm asking something completely insane.



#2 ayresyy

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Posted 16 August 2016 - 04:56 PM

The feed connector for the slave is fixed in a rubber/plastic mount so a little play/movement is normal. This sounds like just the top of the pipe that feeds the slave, the actual concentric cylinder should be firmly mounted in the centre of the bell housing, although there is no easy way to check it.

Edited by ayresyy, 16 August 2016 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 04:57 PM

Please try and create a paragraph that we can understand and maybe we can help. Be precise and clear as I don't understand which part you think is wobbling, the slave cylinder shouldn't even be available to touch unless your gearbox is off the car.


Edited by Nev, 16 August 2016 - 04:59 PM.


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 05:12 PM

As per ayresyy... the concentric cylinder which I believe is a combined slave and release bearing sits inside the bellhousing... and you are refering to the small ally block mounted to the top of the bellhousing... with a hard hydraulic pipe attached (running down the rear / firewall, and a bleed nipple (pointing to the n/s).  I have not tried to forcefully spin my round, and am not sure how they are actually attached, but they feel like they are sitting on a fairly soft rubber damper, and therefore will never feel "bolted down".



#5 chris_uk

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Posted 16 August 2016 - 05:21 PM

Becareful with it because they break easy. If you do break it i have some in stock

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Posted 16 August 2016 - 05:29 PM

This alloy block is held onto the top of the gearbox by a small spring clip. I found it a pita to get it to seat properly as you have to compress the rubber seal down towards the gearbox and slide the clip in. Never had the balls to spring it around, mainly cos it's always been attached to the clutch/brake fluid pipe 😄

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Posted 16 August 2016 - 06:20 PM

its a spring clip connection so it does have a little play in it which is normal. Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk

#8 james4563

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 09:17 AM

Thanks all I wasn't sure if it was normal or not, seems like it is though.

 

 

 

Please try and create a paragraph that we can understand and maybe we can help. Be precise and clear as I don't understand which part you think is wobbling, the slave cylinder shouldn't even be available to touch unless your gearbox is off the car.

 

Sorry if you feel I wasn't clear. I did try to be.

I noticed I made a typo at first stating gear rather than gearbox, I've tried to edit the initial post but I can't see how :S. I assumed that the part on top of the gearbox where you bleed the clutch was part of the slave cylinder. Apologies if that's not right but I'm not familiar with this car yet as I've only had it for a little while.

 



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Posted 17 August 2016 - 09:50 AM

You'll have clutch/brake fluid leaking out if it's not connected properly.

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 10:49 AM

You'll have clutch/brake fluid leaking out if it's not connected properly.

 

Hmmm, there is something leaking, but I'd assumed it was engine oil. I noticed it around the bottom of the bolts that hold fix the gearbox housing to the engine. I couldn't tell where it was coming from above though. There was a small puddle on the under tray when I removed it.

 

I also found that when bleeding the clutch I opened the nipple and my friend put the pedal down to the floor and some fluid came out into my jar. I then closed and he lifted the pedal, we then repeated this but not much more fluid came out. Kind of like the line had a bit of fluid at the end and then a massive amount of air. We bleed the clutch line for ages before the pedal would work properly, after the first bit of fluid had come out it didn't seem like it was really pumping anything through, and the clutch pedal in the car was doing absolutely nothing, it was light as a feather not disengaging the clutch at all.

 

In the end we managed to get it working again, but I'm not sure why it was like that. Must have had a lot of air in it.

Didn't notice any substantial amount of air in the brake system really when I bled those.






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