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[Tibbles Stryker]

So, trying to get my head around my needs. I'd like a geo after fitting new toe links. I'll probably do 1 track day and 4000 Road miles. I'd like to know if I would benefit from having a full Geo, the whole works or whether a basic geo would be up to my needs. Again it seems a mine field. I'd like to hear opinions from people who have had either or both and if it's transformed their cars or not? Is it really worth the extra outlay and would I benefit? I would like to engineer more fun into the steering and the car in general. I'd like it to be the only car I want to drive.

[siztenboots]

part of the time during a geo is to check for wear and play in any of the suspension parts, if there is then this should be remedied first.

 

a decent lotus/vx specialist will know what to look for

[james_ly]

The only thing that could change in this case is the rear toe in/out. So that's all the needs doing because of that change.

 

However, if it hasn't been geo-d before and you aren't happy with handling etc... might as well change the whole lot in one go.

 

You say you want to engineer more fun into the steering... are you on the standard front tyres? Worth getting wider front tyres like 195s or 205s IMO...

[Tibbles Stryker]

Ah sorry nitron ntr46, ad08r 205/45/17 on the front? Car is a 36k turbo. But yep I do only need the toe setting initially..... Although haven't mentioned that to the wife 😁

[chris_uk]

you could have a basic camber/caster/toe geo and it will be perfectly fine, its all ive had done on mine so i wouldnt worry about spending millions on fancy geo's. 

 

corner weighting and the likes is all good stuff but if you are just sat on the road and not going to do many trackdays is it really worth the extra.

 

[ChrisS1]

I remember seeing a guide somewhere about setting up the geometry at home with bamboo canes and string...can't find it now though.

[Nev]

I remember seeing a guide somewhere about setting up the geometry at home with bamboo canes and string...can't find it now though.

 

It's really quite easy, there are loads of videos online. It just takes a bit of time and care and you can do it pretty accurately.  

[oblomov]

 

I remember seeing a guide somewhere about setting up the geometry at home with bamboo canes and string...can't find it now though.

 

It's really quite easy, there are loads of videos online. It just takes a bit of time and care and you can do it pretty accurately.  

 

 

I did my rear wheels like that with pieces of metal I made up for the job. It worked a treat, and when I eventually had a full geo the rear was spot on.  

[turbo boy]

Since you are in Stoke on Trent I would personally recommend taking the car to Liam at MMG. He will set the car up to your own liking and transform it, believe me money well spent 👍

[Tibbles Stryker]

I'm thinking that if I take it to a specialist (someone who knows what they are doing) it'll come back great and maybe steer like my friends exige? I am right in this? But could this be achieved with castor and a basic geo?

[james_ly]

I'm thinking that if I take it to a specialist (someone who knows what they are doing) it'll come back great and maybe steer like my friends exige? I am right in this? But could this be achieved with castor and a basic geo?

 

You say you have Nitrons fitted? So when they were fitted surely the geo was done then... were you happy at the time or has the car got worse since then?  

[Tibbles Stryker]

I fitted them, but already had gaz monos so set at the same height anyway

[Chris P Duck]

Blink Motorsport are about half hour from you and know what they're doing. Well worth the drive in my opinion. http://www.blinkmoto...om/?page_id=135

[jonnyboy]

£150 inc vat with us for a basic Geo. If it needs shimming thats extra but unless you are going for aggressive settings or the cars has a bump you wont need them. 

[Chris P Duck]

£150 inc vat with us for a basic Geo. If it needs shimming thats extra but unless you are going for aggressive settings or the cars has a bump you wont need them. 

Out of curiousity. When you say "shimming" will be extra, are you talking about caster change?

[jonnyboy]

Yup 

[hairy]

I remember seeing a guide somewhere about setting up the geometry at home with bamboo canes and string...can't find it now though.

 

Here: http://wiki.seloc.or...Rig_(Home_Made)

[Tibbles Stryker]

Cheers guys for the input, but I don't suppose anyone has gone from a basic geo done at a specialist to a full Geo and noticed a great deal of difference?

[Wolfstone]

Matt Bentley setting mine up last month.

[Chris P Duck]

Cheers guys for the input, but I don't suppose anyone has gone from a basic geo done at a specialist to a full Geo and noticed a great deal of difference?

Depends what you mean by "full" geo. If this just means caster then the difference will be minimal. You can do this yourself as it's normal just to max it out (2 washers either side is normal, 3 rear one front is maxed out if you're using standard bushes) If "full" geo involves corner weighting, bump / rebound setting etc etc the difference will be more pronounced.