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#1 fezzasus

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 02:28 PM

Was planning to head to Brighton but so far my car has cut out three times. First in heavy traffic (high coolant temp), got it going by keeping the revs high, died again, borrowed some tools to remove the coil pack and stretch the coils over the spark, since then has died twice more, the last time was while driving at around 3000 rpm. Any ideas on what to check while waiting for the AA?

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 02:35 PM

Btw it's a 2.0 l Saab b207 which is what made me check the coil pack springs.

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 03:45 PM

No faults. Going to limp it back

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:05 PM

What temp you got the coolant fans activating And does it bring the temps down ?? Could the water pump be a issue

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:18 PM

might be a stuck (shut) thermostat causing the over-heating ?



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:51 PM

Fans kick in at 98. Temp drops back down to around 86 which remains constant so doesn't seem to be a cooling system problem. Just happened again on the M3. Not fun. Seems letting it cool down works, got 45 minutes out of it this time. Current thinking is coil pack or fuel evap

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:55 PM

Do a log Could be boost leak

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:56 PM

Will do if I make it back

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 05:12 PM

Cut out again.

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 05:13 PM

Seems temperature related. We managed about 45 minutes from cold. Only ten minutes after a ten minute break.

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 05:45 PM

Anyway to drive with all fans on? Internal and external? This should lower temps.

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 06:39 PM

I would say it's the crank sensor.



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 08:06 PM

Crank sensor would come up as an error code (I think). Finally home, lots of back roads from the bottom of the a34 but no more breakdowns. Funnily enough, I put more fuel in and haven't had a problem. Makes me wonder if it's a contaminated batch as the first tank was okay until it was half empty. Since diesel or water are higher density, it might not show straight away. Going to pop over and see if they can provide me the fuel CoA

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 08:46 PM

I have heared of return fuel heating up to much causing issues when driving slow from another dutch guy.

Not 100% sure how he fixed it though.

Next run out, touch your return line just for fun.

 



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 08:52 PM

Crank sensor would come up as an error code (I think). Finally home, lots of back roads from the bottom of the a34 but no more breakdowns. Funnily enough, I put more fuel in and haven't had a problem. Makes me wonder if it's a contaminated batch as the first tank was okay until it was half empty. Since diesel or water are higher density, it might not show straight away. Going to pop over and see if they can provide me the fuel CoA

Oh yeah, I forgot you could get ecu's with data logging... Things I dream of.

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 10:22 PM

I have heared of return fuel heating up to much causing issues when driving slow from another dutch guy.

Not 100% sure how he fixed it though.

Next run out, touch your return line just for fun.

 

 

That's Dominique on an uprated fuelpunp (and PA tank)...

 

He gets vapour lock on lower fuel levels when it heats up too much. Quick remedy; fill up tank.



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:03 AM

I have heared of return fuel heating up to much causing issues when driving slow from another dutch guy.

Not 100% sure how he fixed it though.

Next run out, touch your return line just for fun.

 

 

 

 

I have heared of return fuel heating up to much causing issues when driving slow from another dutch guy.

Not 100% sure how he fixed it though.

Next run out, touch your return line just for fun.

 

 

That's Dominique on an uprated fuelpunp (and PA tank)...

 

He gets vapour lock on lower fuel levels when it heats up too much. Quick remedy; fill up tank.

 

 

hmm, this is the first long, hot day run with an uprated fuel pump. The AA man thought it was vapour lock too. In the end I ended up opening the fuel filler cap each time I stopped, but there wasn't any pressure build up.



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:08 AM

Which fuel pump did you go for

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:33 AM

And you have a Pro Alloy tank? It's not pressure/vacuum build-up, just fuel temperature that creates gas bubbles...

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 07:15 AM

Which fuel pump did you go for

 

DW65c

 

Advantage (for me at least) is it drops straight into the existing VX fuel canister and pulls less current, which should also mean less fuel heating.

 

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