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[MartinS]

Supposedly by then we will all be in autonomous vehicles anyway so it wont matter!

Oh and there goes another flying pig.

 

Martin S

 

[Captain Vimes]

No mention of motorbikes. iRobot has predicted the future! I'll be Will Smith on an MV Augusta driving past all the automous electric cars looking cool in my shades... hold on I'll be how old??? Over 60?? Oh sh*t, I'll be the fat bloke on the Harley then

[The Knobs]

If cars are charged at home how will they generate all the lost taxes from petrol/diesel, a massive road tax just to use the road network? Doing the green thing is great, but billions of lost revenue for the pot will have to be found from somewhere

[ianrm]

It might be wrong but someone told me that we would have build another 6 massive power stations to cope with the extra demand for charging millions of cars 

 

 

[Alastair]

It might be wrong but someone told me that we would have build another 6 massive power stations to cope with the extra demand for charging millions of cars 

 

 

 

I know its impossible without foreign investment,  But that would be a great solution.  UK money pays for UK power, drivers pay it off.  It would then turn the sandy middle east back in to a desert when the oil money stays closer to home.

 

I'm also going to marry Margot Robbie and live to 224.  Meanwhile, back in the real world...

[Baron Von Scubadaddy]

fcuk global warming ........what the fcuk about the Japanese power plant that is gonna be a problem for the next 400 years !!!!

Oh no ones talking about that are they?

 

Just another way to fcuk us get us to spend more money and buy a different mode of transport.

 

Its not the car driver killing the plant at all !!!!!

 

makes me so angry 

[The Knobs]

Roll on the electric Caterham, i really hope they do one soon

[Baron Von Scubadaddy]

Now that would be good !

Edited by Baron Von Scubadaddy, 27 July 2017 - 11:27 PM.

[christhegasman]

Now that would be good !

As long as you have a petrol wagon and a traitor to get it home when the charge runs out after a couple of laps of hard driving or it would need to weigh the same as a Range Rover with all the batteries 😀

[twoclubsandastick]

I'm just not sure where the power is going to come for all of this, I admittedly have no idea if electricity is greener to produce then using fossil fuels?

[casino]

what size battery would a HGV need?

[Pidgeon]

I'm just not sure where the power is going to come for all of this, I admittedly have no idea if electricity is greener to produce then using fossil fuels?

 

Electricity has traditionally been produced by burning fossil fuels

 

Solar/wind/tidal are 'green' but we need to store - hence government's home generation/battery intentions

 

Nuclear would be the answer, but for the loony left/misguided environmentalists

[SteveA]

Oh and there is the carbon bubble to keep in mind too. I would think that almost everyone's pension and most banks invest heavily in oil as its a predictable market. If we suddenly stop using oil there will be an enormous financial crash that makes the last one look like nothing.

[slindborg]

I'm just not sure where the power is going to come for all of this, I admittedly have no idea if electricity is greener to produce then using fossil fuels?

 

There is a school of thought where a fossil fuel power station is easier to control the emissions per KW generated than that of the car.

 

 

 

I'm in two minds about this whole "ban" bull sheets.

On one hand for day to day driving where most people are fucktards, doing the same 10-50mile commute, then bring on the EV and autonomous pilotage, hell even make people car pool more as charging at work will be hard and parking is always a dick.

On the other hand, petrol head!!!!

 

Now, it could be that for a non "road going" car, the ban wont cover it... in which case wooo hooo, just fuel will be mental money

[The Knobs]

What about nuclear powered cars, no need for lights with that green glow  

[turbobob]

26 million cars plugged in every night so better start building the power stations now or turn the coal ones back on 

  It doesn't necessarily work like that though. Look at peak electricity demand during the day and compare it to the wee hours, and you'll see there is massive change in demand between the two.   Its more likely that energy costs will go up as demand (in previously low demand times) will go up.   Saying all that, there is a real issue with future generation capacity (generally, but EV's will compound the issue somewhat).  

I've been pondering over this for a little while now and did a little digging. The current UK max capacity for electricity generation is around 70 to 75GW. I've taken out wind and solar due to unpredictable nature. Current annual power generation is around 50GW. Based on the current number of cars and the growth over the last 10 years there will be something like 38 million cars on the road. If we take an average mileage of 12k, and utilise a rough charge of 10kw per 100km, the cars will need around 72GW of power to run them. So we barely have the capacity to charge the cars let alone the rest of the countries power requirements. I'm surprised that there haven't been significant strides in hydrogen fuel cells or hydrogen micro beads (which can be used in conventional petrol engines if memory serves) and the only emissions are water.

[Chris P Duck]

I'm 36, my VX is 15 years old, has no real problems and was hardly "built to last". So if I buy a petrol car in 2039 I'm happy in it until at least 2059 by which time I'll be 78 and probably less likely to give a crap by that point. I'm also sure they'll be loop holes to exploit for a while so it shouldn't affect me (around which the world revolves, obviously) I do wonder if there will be a hurrah from car manufacturers with some insane petrol engines in the 2030's or if it will all be 0.3l turbo'd rubbish by that point anyway.

Edited by Chris P Duck, 01 August 2017 - 08:49 PM.

[slindborg]

26 million cars plugged in every night so better start building the power stations now or turn the coal ones back on 

  It doesn't necessarily work like that though. Look at peak electricity demand during the day and compare it to the wee hours, and you'll see there is massive change in demand between the two.   Its more likely that energy costs will go up as demand (in previously low demand times) will go up.   Saying all that, there is a real issue with future generation capacity (generally, but EV's will compound the issue somewhat).  

I've been pondering over this for a little while now and did a little digging. The current UK max capacity for electricity generation is around 70 to 75GW. I've taken out wind and solar due to unpredictable nature. Current annual power generation is around 50GW. Based on the current number of cars and the growth over the last 10 years there will be something like 38 million cars on the road. If we take an average mileage of 12k, and utilise a rough charge of 10kw per 100km, the cars will need around 72GW of power to run them. So we barely have the capacity to charge the cars let alone the rest of the countries power requirements. I'm surprised that there haven't been significant strides in hydrogen fuel cells or hydrogen micro beads (which can be used in conventional petrol engines if memory serves) and the only emissions are water.

I worked on "Challenger" where they chucked a huge ass rotrex on a petrol transit and then put hydrogen in there..... yeah petrifying:lol: but it worked

[Mangham54]

My issue is how are they planning to resolve charging locations in areas where street parking is obligatory on large rows of terraced houses? I live in an end terrace with no space /parking issues, but we have a line of cars up the side of our garden every night from those who live on the next row, where there isn't adequate spaces as it is

[Baron Von Scubadaddy]

I heard a someone talking a while back on a motor job I did.

 

They where saying that BMW were up for replacing all the street lighting with new posts with charging points in them.

 

I still think its crazy charging lots and lots of batteries with electricity provided by the grid??????????????

 

We seam to hate the wind farm and the solar farm in the UK.

 

This all sounds too bold a statement to make .............