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#1 Talk-torque

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 05:58 PM

Recently my running oil pressure dropped from around 75 psi to around 40 psi. Oil level is correct and the oil and filter were changed in May, around 500 miles ago. I have no nasty noises, no leaks, no unusual oil consumption and no smoke. After a search on here, I decided to check the pressure control valve. There were no signs of this sticking. The valve parts and the orrifice seemed to be clean and with no damage. Does this mean my pcv is OK? Any other ideas on why I should have suddenly lost oil pressure? I have had suggestions of the filter being blocked, or the by-pass valve sticking, which I am going to check. I will also be checking out the gauge and sensor, which are Stack.

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 06:46 PM

the z22se standard oil pressure is 125 psi, which is quite high. Most gauges only go up to 100 psi and the z22se engine tends to kill either the oil gauge pressure sender or the oil gauge, I have been through quite a few.

 

My current engine has under piston oil jets, this reduces the oil pressure to around 85-90 psi and I now have a Stack oil pressure sender and matching gauge. The stack gauge did decide to melt internally but I managed to solder the component back on and it's been fine ever since.

 

The oil pump pressure relief valve should have no scoring marks and be free to slide inside the pump.



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Posted 10 September 2017 - 07:29 PM

Thanks vocky. There are slight marks on the valve, but nothing serious. I will see how freely the valve moves, before I refit it. Sounds like the gauge and sender need a careful check. Not sure where the sender is yet. Where are they usually fitted?

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:09 PM

its on the pipe to the oil filter housing. 



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Posted 11 September 2017 - 05:56 AM

Thanks Chris.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:13 PM

Just re-assembled the PCV and the problem is solved! Hot, I'm now seeing 55psi at tick over, 75 at 3K rpm and over 100 blipping the throttle! I am one happy bunny. 🐰 Wish I'd put it back together last night, now. I was a little concerned!

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:07 PM

My thoughts on this, now that I've recovered (!), are that I wouldn't have known anything was wrong, if my car hadn't got an oil pressure gauge fitted. From my internet search for a solution, a sticking pressure control valve is not uncommon. How much damage could be done by long term use of an engine with such low oil pressure, given that the chain tensioners and the tappets all depend on that pressure. I don't know - just asking, but I'm very glad my car had a gauge! I'd recommend anyone who hasn't to fit one.



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 06:07 PM

Well, sadly, that was not the end of our oil pressure problem. After a run, the readings still dropped to about half what they should be. Thanks to my North Yorkshire forum buddies, especially John (Johnboyhgt), the car is now, finally, fixed. An oil pressure check with a mechanical gauge kit prooved the actual pressure to be as it should be, pointing the finger at the gauge, or sensor. I fitted a new sensor, courtesy of Deamon Tweeks (ebay), this afternoon and all is now as it should be. I don't know how long this sensor will last, but the gauge doesn't seem to mind going off scale by 25psi, or so, too much. Thanks also to Vocky, for being right all along, as usual! 😀

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 06:17 PM

previous bitter experience was the only reason I knew  :ffs:   :lol: 



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:10 PM

My pleasure Roger. Always better to have a definite reading to compare against before deciding on a course of action. Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk




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