Cds Wishbones
#1
Posted 15 September 2017 - 11:57 AM
#2
Posted 15 September 2017 - 12:54 PM
Sorry to not help, but can we have the long story of how body work has ended up needing new wishbones please?
#3
Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:02 PM
#4
Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:22 PM
The next question would have been the right bushes, i would go for the nitron ones if i get some postive feedback from them. What makes me curious is the price difference between ep and es? its huge!I asked this question to Elise parts a while back and was told that the CDS ones were made from a superior alloy that is stronger and lighter. You will also need to consider what bushes to replace with as they do not come included. The OEM bushes are considered superior but are a lot more expensive. Hope this helps? Jon
I will post the whole story some other day :-) with all my expierence with that companySorry to not help, but can we have the long story of how body work has ended up needing new wishbones please?
#5
Posted 15 September 2017 - 05:45 PM
I asked this question to Elise parts a while back and was told that the CDS ones were made from a superior alloy that is stronger and lighter. You will also need to consider what bushes to replace with as they do not come included. The OEM bushes are considered superior but are a lot more expensive. Hope this helps? Jon
They actually told you that a particular steel was lighter?
#6
Posted 15 September 2017 - 06:31 PM
#7
Posted 15 September 2017 - 07:09 PM
Isn't CDS steel stronger therefore you can use thinner walled tubing which results in a lighter finished product?
#8
Posted 15 September 2017 - 07:21 PM
Nitron also used to make wishbones if that widens your selection...
#9
Posted 15 September 2017 - 09:42 PM
This is my understandingIsn't CDS steel stronger therefore you can use thinner walled tubing which results in a lighter finished product?
#10
Posted 15 September 2017 - 10:30 PM
If you buy the EP ones, before you fit them strip them and get them plated ot a better quality powder coating, or something. Mine looked crap after 2 years.
#11
Posted 15 September 2017 - 11:47 PM
#12
Posted 16 September 2017 - 07:33 AM
Maybe it was just stronger and thinking about it, I think they said that the protective surface was of a higher quality as well?
Making them stronger isn't necessary. The OEM ones are strong enough. If you make them "stronger" then they can't sacrificially bend as much if/when you have an impact. CDS is deliberatly chosen for it's malleability, if you over strengthen the wishbone all that will happen is that your mounting hard-points will be damaged more easily in an impact (thus more likely to write your car off) and more transfer of energy into the chassis (which is bad for the occupants).
Edited by Nev, 16 September 2017 - 07:36 AM.
#13
Posted 16 September 2017 - 08:18 AM
So i guess i'll go for the CDS Wishbones with the nitron inner bearing kit.
Why is there a huge price difference between Eliseparts and Elise-spares? I guess its the same product?
#14
Posted 16 September 2017 - 08:22 AM
Why is there a huge price difference between Eliseparts and Elise-spares? I guess its the same product?
Profit margins and labour cost differences I would imagine!
#15
Posted 16 September 2017 - 10:05 AM
Elise spares have previously taken a cut and shut VX220 and stated they will scrap it, only to sit on it and attempt to sell on when interest had died down. For that reason alone I won't buy from them and frankly don't trust the descriptions of anything they are selling. How will you know it's cold drawn steel?
Details of mentioned ca r here: http://www.vx220.org...uestions/page-7
#16
Posted 16 September 2017 - 09:52 PM
As per their description, Elise spares wishbones use same tube thickness (2mm) as OEM. So they cannot be lighter, just stronger (and less "sacrificial")
#17
Posted 17 September 2017 - 04:59 PM
#18
Posted 17 September 2017 - 06:04 PM
@ Driftfactor; Why not simply re-plate your original wishbones?
As I remember correctly, you only want to replace them because they look rubbish after that company left your car bottom covered in salt...
#19
Posted 18 September 2017 - 05:32 AM
I already had them replated and i dont want the risk that they will break because of hydrogen embrittlement. so i rather go for new ones instead.@ Driftfactor; Why not simply re-plate your original wishbones? As I remember correctly, you only want to replace them because they look rubbish after that company left your car bottom covered in salt...
#20
Posted 18 September 2017 - 07:10 AM
Don't think you'll add much risk if done correctly, as hydrogen embrittlement is mostly a problem in high strength steels.
Or you can do a powdercoat option. (= same as the CDS ones seem to have)
Edited by Exmantaa, 18 September 2017 - 07:11 AM.
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