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[Branagorn]

Hello forum,

 

While I am seeking advice from all areas,  I thought I'd open it the the floor here also, as there is a wealth of knowledge here, and one amongst may indeed have the answer.

 

I was involved in incident back in September, whilst on my motorcycle.  While stationary, I was hit by a reversing car, the chap must either really not like me, or decided he didn't need to check his rear view mirror.

 

As the incident is non-fault.  I've been dealt with by my insurance company's underwriter.

 

Recently, I received a letter stating that the pre-accident value of my bike was estimated to be £1500 (I'm currently contesting this), and that it is now worth £150 in salvage, which will remain my property.

 

I was perplexed by this, wondering why a CAT B vehicle will be returned to me, as I will not be able to put it back on the road.  I questioned this, with the underwriter, but their stance remains firm.  The reason being that their Northampton site (where the bike was taken and is currently held) do not deal with CAT B bikes.

 

Because of this, I began ringing local scrap merchants.  Some told me that they also, do not deal with CAT B vehicles, and some have been a little more informative, to tell me that I should need a license to handle/sell a CAT B vehicle, and that there is no option on the V5C for me to fill in to scrap the bike.  They told me it is illegal to have the bike back.

 

I've tried putting this point to the underwriter, but again they insist that the bike will be returned to me.

 

So for one thing, I don't know what to do.  I don't particularly want the bike back, especially after being told its illegal to do so, and I could be fined.  I don't know who to believe, or what to do.

 

I'll be trying citizens advice perhaps, but really, I don't know what to expect.  Anybody else have experience with this?

 

Cheers,  Alex

[slindborg]

Grind the chassis numbers off, cut it up into carryable bits and drop in the local recycling centre

 

 

In all seriousness.

Odd that they CAT B'd it.

 

Based on past experience of an under-writer, total lossing a vehicle and being told its CAT C, I had a check run and it didnt show up as CAT marked. Always a winner.

You might be lucky in that its the same, total loss, but not CAT marked.

 

The salvage company should know better than to hand stuff back that you cant legally hold.

 

Oh and a point of note. If they are being dicks about the value, you may find the buy back %age goes up I had that... They valued it low but the buy back was almost nothing, I argued a higer value and the buyback was mental, so the lower figure made more sense sadly

 

[Captain Vimes]

I bought back a cat B motorbike, stuck it on eBay and had 3 people interested via messenger. It went to Europe in the end, collected on a lorrry and went straight to Dover that day. Never had any come back from DVLA or anyone else about taking ownership of a cat B bike.

[hairy]

Sell on parts?

[2GOOD]

Times change, I had a Ducati 916 that was covered in Carbon, Magnesium wheels, Ohlins, big bore Termis etc. got knocked off it Feb 2000, the bike was a mess (& so was I for while). They decided it was Cat B & made a disappointing offer on the bike (Norwich Union), I desperately wanted the bike back but they wouldnt have it

[anz3001]

Ive seen lots of cat b bikes for sale, mostly they are used as track bikes. I wouldnt be worried about taking it back from a legal point of view, there must be more than £150 worth if parts?

[Tibbles Stryker]

Could be a good Base to make a go cart 😍😍😍😍 always fancied doing this.

[Andrew aka Stuwy]

To allow you to purchase Category B vehicles you will need to do the following: 1) Provide us with up-to-date / valid copies of the following documents: Your Environmental Permit (EP), formerly a Waste Management Licence (WML) as issued by the Environment Agency (EA). If you do not have this licence and wish to obtain one, please telephone the EA on 03708 506506 and ask for the Environment Management Team that deals with your postcode area. Your Environment Agency Annual Subsistence Charge Invoice Your Waste Carriers License as issued by the Environment Agency. A copy of your Hazardous Waste Licence (unless you are a registered Member in Northern Ireland, England and Scotland where individual rules apply*) 2) Authorised Treatment Facility status Once you have an EP / WML, you will then need to achieve Authorised Treatment Facility (ATF) status with the Environment Agency 3) Register with the DVLA Once you are set up as an ATF, you will then need to be set up online with the DVLA to notify them electronically of: Certificates of Destruction (CODs) for cars; and/or Notices of Destruction (NODs) for motorcycles, HGVs, commercial vehicles and caravans electronically

Edited by Andrew aka Stuwy, 04 December 2017 - 02:32 PM.

[Branagorn]

So this might be what the scrap dealers are referring to.  I just don't know what it means in terms of me owning, then selling parts from a Cat B vehicle.

To allow you to purchase Category B vehicles you will need to do the following: 1) Provide us with up-to-date / valid copies of the following documents: Your Environmental Permit (EP), formerly a Waste Management Licence (WML) as issued by the Environment Agency (EA). If you do not have this licence and wish to obtain one, please telephone the EA on 03708 506506 and ask for the Environment Management Team that deals with your postcode area. Your Environment Agency Annual Subsistence Charge Invoice Your Waste Carriers License as issued by the Environment Agency. A copy of your Hazardous Waste Licence (unless you are a registered Member in Northern Ireland, England and Scotland where individual rules apply*) 2) Authorised Treatment Facility status Once you have an EP / WML, you will then need to achieve Authorised Treatment Facility (ATF) status with the Environment Agency 3) Register with the DVLA Once you are set up as an ATF, you will then need to be set up online with the DVLA to notify them electronically of: Certificates of Destruction (CODs) for cars; and/or Notices of Destruction (NODs) for motorcycles, HGVs, commercial vehicles and caravans electronically

 

[ElizP987]

what bike is it?

[Branagorn]

what bike is it?

2000, Honda CBR 600F