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#1 gaffer1986

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 11:03 PM

Tried my first suck the oil out of the dip stick oil change today to save time. Only got 4 litres out, so I guess this wasn't a success. Also the oil is still very dark and normally it is light gold after a change.

Anyone else use the suck oil from dip stick method?

Edited by gaffer1986, 02 December 2018 - 11:04 PM.


#2 Madmitch

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 11:12 PM

Much better to do a proper drain out via the sump plug with the engine warm, to get rid of any sludge that has sunk to the bottom.



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Posted 02 December 2018 - 11:15 PM

yeah, where the dipstick is and the angle of the vx engine im not suprised you didnt get it all out



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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:21 AM

Pretty easy to do an oil change from underneath, particularly if you have the little access hatch in the undertray

#5 gaffer1986

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 06:56 AM

No access hatch for me, I was just trying to find a quicker way of doing the job, my sucker hose is quite rigid which I don't think helps. I think I normally get 4.5 litres out when I drain it.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:24 AM

Make an access hatch, its easy.



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Posted 03 December 2018 - 09:00 AM

Wouldn't worry about the oil colour. It's because it's running richer; either because you've had more cold starts or there's poorer mapping for low temp



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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:22 PM

I know you always say that about the oil but it is a good way to determine if you have replaced most of it. I was thinking it could be a good idea to use this method to do regular oil changes say every 60 days to keep the oil clean and young but I remember you saying you shouldn't replace oil too often as new oil is worse on rubbers. What worries my about oil it the fact it must get very hot on track and maybe this changes it.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 02:03 PM

I couldn’t change oil every 60 days, that’s crazy! I run a whole race season without changing the oil on my Caterham.

It helps that I use about a litre of oil each race weekend so it constantly has fresh oil going in. In fact as I use expensive Ester based oil I’m wondering if I can get another season without doing a full change again...

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 02:09 PM

I know you always say that about the oil but it is a good way to determine if you have replaced most of it. I was thinking it could be a good idea to use this method to do regular oil changes say every 60 days to keep the oil clean and young but I remember you saying you shouldn't replace oil too often as new oil is worse on rubbers. What worries my about oil it the fact it must get very hot on track and maybe this changes it.

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There's really no need at all to change your oil that frequently.



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 05:32 AM

A Ducati mechanic told me that there's no reason to change synthetic oil at all, it doesn't break down like mineral oil does, the discolouration is due to carbon deposit. That said, I still change mine but not every 60 days. Mad.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 07:02 AM

Agreed, no need to change it every 60 days, I'm just thinking maybe this would clean my engine and this method takes 30 mins. Also, seeing yellow oil makes me feel better. It's not fully synthetic, only part synthetic. ACEA A3 B4

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 07:31 AM

How many miles do you do in 60 days?



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 09:14 AM

That can vary a lot, several hundred to 1000 depending where I go. I don't think I should have quoted every 60 days, in my head it is more like after a track day I was just trying to put a time to it.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 09:37 AM

That can vary a lot, several hundred to 1000 depending where I go. I don't think I should have quoted every 60 days, in my head it is more like after a track day I was just trying to put a time to it.

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After EVERY track day ? wow 

 

How much do you spend on oil in a year ? 



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 09:39 AM

I don't already do this. I currently change it twice a year. I've heard it doesn't hurt to change it every track day.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 01:31 PM

I don't already do this. I currently change it twice a year. I've heard it doesn't hurt to change it every track day.

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Can I be your oil supplier..

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 07:37 PM

A Ducati mechanic told me that there's no reason to change synthetic oil at all, it doesn't break down like mineral oil does, the discolouration is due to carbon deposit. That said, I still change mine but not every 60 days. Mad.


That's complete bollocks.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 07:43 PM

I can normally get 5 litres for under £15 from car parts for less. ;)

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 08:16 PM

Crikey, I thought I was being over-zealous, changing my oil every 1500 miles (and that's with cheapo mineral oil to suit my "old-skool" ring/cylinder gap).

 

 

 


Edited by Nev, 05 December 2018 - 08:22 PM.





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