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#1 Peter VXR29

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 11:58 AM

May be of interest to some of the serious vx modifying fraternity?

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 12:38 PM

Some context would be nice.

Leevx is allready on a 1900, and mr cobra will soon follow.

 



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Posted 26 December 2018 - 01:05 PM

Lee doesn't use this harrop 1900, this is the one with charge cooling.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 01:34 PM

What an i looking at?

An S3 exige upgraded from a 1720 to 1900, an S2 with complete custom work?

 



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Posted 26 December 2018 - 01:52 PM

It's a s3 exige upgraded from standard 1320 non charge cooled harrop to latest new 1900 charge cooled harrop. Believe it's first one into the country.

If you want all the tech stuff here is a link.
https://youtu.be/fsN56AD1rBs

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 02:20 PM

So all mapped now Peter? What are the numbers?

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 02:25 PM

Very surprised that lotus has none of their exiges running on chargecooling.

 

Are we looking at your car Peter?
So a harrop 1900 based kit as competition to a komotec 460 kit?

 


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 02:37 PM

Just saw on seloc; 411bhp. Very nice sir, you’ll notice that to the overrated standard V6.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 02:52 PM

Very surprised that lotus has none of their exiges running on chargecooling.

 

Due to cost and speed of delivery to market I expect.

 

If the engine can make 400 HP (or whatever it is) just once, so they can publish 'high' power figures then they are happy. They don't give a monkeys (and no doubt many of the buyers don't even realise) that in sustained driving creates heat and that their power is going to significantly drop.

 


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 02:57 PM

Very surprised that lotus has none of their exiges running on chargecooling.

Are we looking at your car Peter?
So a harrop 1900 based kit as competition to a komotec 460 kit?


Yes it is my car (exige 360 cup), lotus have just started to offer charge cooled cars with the exige 430 cup but even that doesn't make 411 bhp at hubs and costs silly money.
In comparison to komotec 460 kit this should be better, more torque, more power than komotec 460 and I suspect won't cook as quickly as komotec on track.

All good in theory, we will see when it's let loose on track, certainly drives alot stronger ☺

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:01 PM

Can you measure inlet temp via odb Peter? (using a phone app)
If so, would be interesting to see what it does on a track day.



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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:06 PM



Very surprised that lotus has none of their exiges running on chargecooling.

Due to cost and speed of delivery to market I expect.

If the engine can make 400 HP (or whatever it is) just once, so they can publish 'high' power figures then they are happy. They don't give a monkeys (and no doubt many of the buyers don't even realise) that in sustained driving creates heat and that their power is going to significantly drop.
Your dam right Nev, most lotus owners think the basic V6 is fast and maybe for them it is, but I was left wanting more from the beginning. Heat issues on track because of no charge cooler also added further to my frustration, so for me this was the way forward however I understand it won't be everyone's cup of tea but I,m certainly alot happier.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:09 PM

 


If the engine can make 400 HP (or whatever it is) just once, so they can publish 'high' power figures then they are happy. They don't give a monkeys (and no doubt many of the buyers don't even realise) that in sustained driving creates heat and that their power is going to significantly drop.

 

 

Could also explain what's going on here. (Besides not using the launch control the S has, and a captain slow at the wheel)

 


 



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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:10 PM

Can you measure inlet temp via odb Peter? (using a phone app)
If so, would be interesting to see what it does on a track day.

I would assume so as I have inlet sensors on my car (they don't normally) I know motec guy took all that data in the past it's just I'm no great techno wizzo so don't know how, but if my old vx odb reader works on this car and it offers the data to be viewed I could do that.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:13 PM




If the engine can make 400 HP (or whatever it is) just once, so they can publish 'high' power figures then they are happy. They don't give a monkeys (and no doubt many of the buyers don't even realise) that in sustained driving creates heat and that their power is going to significantly drop.


Could also explain what's going on here. (Besides not using the launch control the S has, and a captain slow at the wheel)



Standard exige s in video will be something close to 288 bhp at hubs

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:14 PM

I see you are on the Zandvoort list.

We can have a look with my dongle and cellphone.
 

Just need to now where i can plug it in :glare:



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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:24 PM

I see you are on the Zandvoort list.
We can have a look with my dongle and cellphone.

Just need to now where i can plug it in :glare:


Think it has obd port down by passenger footwell just like vx.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:34 PM

Any excuse to pax that beast is a good one :tt:



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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:43 PM

Any excuse to pax that beast is a good one :tt:


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 05:04 PM

10 minutes of waffle in that video, 10 seconds of info.


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