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#1 Steble

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 11:10 PM

Hi all,

Surprised this one hasn’t been done before (well I couldn’t find it)

I am very close to buying a supercharged vx220 but would a turbo one be better. As it was designed this way and the supercharged ones are an after thought.

Also value wise, the turbo will be worth more won’t it ? As the supercharged ones are just an N/A that has been messed around with.

It is a tricky decision.

The one I’m looking at is £14.5k

Comments appreciated

Thanks
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Posted 12 April 2019 - 12:07 AM

What do you want to use it for?

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 12:13 AM

What do you want to use it for?

 

to drive im guessing



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Posted 12 April 2019 - 05:20 AM

Test drive both and decide what you prefer. Costs and residuals will depend on buyer and specific condition of the car. What the heart wants...

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 06:09 AM

If long term residuals is the goal then the VXT (can depend on how modded it is).

If you want it just to drive then go the SC.

Buy on condition not mileage bla bla as per usual.

Do you prefer turbo torque or SC linearity?

#6 turbo boy

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 07:43 AM

Hi Steve,

I’m afraid that this controversial debate has been asked a million, billion times before...

The simple fact is that turbo cars are far more superior 😆

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 07:45 AM

Hi Steve,

I’m afraid that this controversial debate has been asked a million, billion times before...

The simple fact is that turbo cars are far more superior 😆

Jon


Hi Steve,

I’m afraid this controversial debate has never been asked a million, billion times before...

The simple fact is that Supercharged cars are far more superior 😆

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:08 AM

As it was designed this way and the supercharged ones are an after thought.

 

Is this about future classic value? In that case an unmolested turbo al day long.

If this is about driving pleasure, try both before spending.

 

I have an SC since 2011, and after last years test drive in a stage 2 tubby i was very unimpressed with the behaviour.
 


Edited by smiley, 12 April 2019 - 08:09 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:52 AM

Tale as old as time
True as it can be
Barely even friends
Then somebody bends
Unexpectedly

Just a little change
Small to say the least
Both a little scared
Neither one prepared
N/A and the supercharger

 

Drive both, personally love the turbo kick but each to their own.

 



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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:56 AM

Turbo for SLJs*
SC for drivers who like corners.




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Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:21 AM

@The OP, at the 250 HP area, VX220s that are supercharged are normally better/easier to drive (lots of smoother torque), though a few well mapped turbocharged cars can be quite good.

 

If you want a circa 300 HP car, be aware most S/C'ed VX220s struggle with cooling the charge, so on a hot day when peddling hard that real world number often drops quite significantly, where as a 300 HP TC'ed car (with intercooler) should not see a drop in HP.

 

Mapping a 300 HP TC'ed car is not easy on VX220 though, there are some poor maps around, I had one for a year and though it was "fun", it did not let you exploit the torque at the limit, as these cars can bite badly if you overcook it.

 

All in all, S/Ced cars will be easier to drive in the real world (and slightly less accident inducing!), they also pull hard from low RPM which makes for a nice "lazy" drive (don't need to stir the gears so much for every day driving). But beware the heat soak on the more powerfull/less well cooled ones.

 

HTH.

 

 


Edited by Nev, 12 April 2019 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2019 - 12:06 PM

SC for track

NA for road 

Turbo for ditch 



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Posted 12 April 2019 - 05:52 PM


As it was designed this way and the supercharged ones are an after thought.


Is this about future classic value? In that case an unmolested turbo al day long.
If this is about driving pleasure, try both before spending.

I have an SC since 2011, and after last years test drive in a stage 2 tubby i was very unimpressed with the behaviour.
Depends entirely on how it was mapped...

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 05:53 PM

@The OP, at the 250 HP area, VX220s that are supercharged are normally better/easier to drive (lots of smoother torque), though a few well mapped turbocharged cars can be quite good.

If you want a circa 300 HP car, be aware most S/C'ed VX220s struggle with cooling the charge, so on a hot day when peddling hard that real world number often drops quite significantly, where as a 300 HP TC'ed car (with intercooler) should not see a drop in HP.

Mapping a 300 HP TC'ed car is not easy on VX220 though, there are some poor maps around, I had one for a year and though it was "fun", it did not let you exploit the torque at the limit, as these cars can bite badly if you overcook it.

All in all, S/Ced cars will be easier to drive in the real world (and slightly less accident inducing!), they also pull hard from low RPM which makes for a nice "lazy" drive (don't need to stir the gears so much for every day driving). But beware the heat soak on the more powerfull/less well cooled ones.

HTH.

Steve TeamVXRacing has a great map, his map puts mmg to shame

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 05:54 PM

Turbo for SLJs*
SC for drivers who like corners.




*Straight Line Junkies ©ShinyAndy 2004

My son, who's 6, kept up with you at the last national

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 07:05 PM

 

 

As it was designed this way and the supercharged ones are an after thought.


Is this about future classic value? In that case an unmolested turbo al day long.
If this is about driving pleasure, try both before spending.

I have an SC since 2011, and after last years test drive in a stage 2 tubby i was very unimpressed with the behaviour.
Depends entirely on how it was mapped...

 

 

By Steve.

Does not mater though. Was purely turbo versus SC bahaviour i did not like.
 



#17 ash_gt4

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:10 PM

SC for track
NA for road
Turbo for ditch

Brilliant

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:35 PM

Nothing quite the kick from a turbo. Linear is boring.

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 06:33 AM

I find the SC to be a lazy car, you only need two gears.

 

Not driven a tubby so cannot comment, but for pure driving pleasure you need throttle bodies with a 4.17 final drive



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Posted 13 April 2019 - 07:17 AM

What do you want to use it for?


Daily drive and track fun. I don’t do many miles at all.

5 miles to work and I usually cycle




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