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#1 VX DAVE

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 07:53 PM

Just after some technical advice

 

My boot relays are getting quite warm, if not hot

 

yellow seems fine but the two grey ones are quite warm

 

is this normal ?

 

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#2 fezzasus

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 09:22 PM

Fuel pump and ECU relay, so will be always on and running 30 A when the car is running so not surprising that they get hot

 

PS. shouldn't one be brown?


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Posted 02 August 2020 - 09:25 PM

the ECU one is usually brown. 



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Posted 03 August 2020 - 07:04 AM

Does your ubend still have the oem heatshield, or heatwrap, as that is just below your relay location.

 



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Posted 04 August 2020 - 07:29 PM

Fuel pump and ECU relay, so will be always on and running 30 A when the car is running so not surprising that they get hot

 

PS. shouldn't one be brown?

 

 

the ECU one is usually brown. 

 

 

I did a search before posting and one of the answers I found suggested that the VXT has 2 grey relays,  something to do with the normally open and normally closed switches

 

 

Posted 30 March 2018 - 03:46 PM

brown relay switches two circuits - 2 x Normally Open contacts

 

grey relay switches one circuit - 1 x Normally Open and one x Normally Closed contacts

 

Looking at the vxT engine wiring diagram it shows K16, K18 and K62 as single switch, so grey relays can be used.



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Posted 04 August 2020 - 07:30 PM

Does your ubend still have the oem heatshield, or heatwrap, as that is just below your relay location.

 

 

Probably not,  I have a Milltek system fitted



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Posted 04 August 2020 - 07:55 PM

 

Looks like it gets too warm.......

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Posted 04 August 2020 - 08:10 PM

Not sure what the numbers mean exactly, but the brown relay has numbers, 30/40A  and the grey relay has 20/30A

 

The diagram on both relays are the same



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Posted 04 August 2020 - 08:21 PM

Is it the crispy one that is supposed to be brown?

 


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#10 VX DAVE

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Posted 04 August 2020 - 08:23 PM

Is it the crispy one that is supposed to be brown?

 

I think so,   my fuel pump kept stopping when these got hot

 

I have been looking at the brown relay and I can see the brown relay appears to have a double switch,  so my post above is wrong



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Posted 04 August 2020 - 08:26 PM

top diagram is grey

 

 

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#12 Tony H

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Posted 04 August 2020 - 08:28 PM

The grey bosch relays can also be found under the front bonet so you can swap the one for the horn for example as a temporary fix.

 

 

The brown one in the 2.2 has two outputs.

 

 

 

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Posted 04 August 2020 - 08:34 PM

Any info regarding the VXT boot relays



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Posted 04 August 2020 - 09:19 PM

Difficult.

I tried to get a clear picture of the 4 relays, and ended up with 3 completely different results.

Not sure what is going on with this turbo stuff. None of them have the brown one like the NA.

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Posted 04 August 2020 - 10:02 PM

I have found the wiring diagram on one of the speedster forums,   the wiring for them shows single switch relays in K16 and K18



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Posted 05 August 2020 - 09:00 AM

 

 

Looks like it gets too warm.......

 

 

If the pins got so hot you may want to check/replace the contacts in the relay socket too.

 

These 'springy' female contacts tend to relax when they are overheated and afterwards they can have issues making good contact even on a new relay and you end up burning it more from the resistance in the connection. (until the plastic of the plug simply melts away in a charred blob..)

 

At a minimum clean the socket well with a contact cleaner and check if the contacts still grab the relay pins securely. If not, pull the contact out of the socket and gently squeeze it a little in some pliers and re-test.

 

It's not a perfect fix as the conmtact material tends to have softened, so it has lost some of it's spring-back and will have a weaker grip, but often it works for some time again.

 

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