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#21 Ivor

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 03:51 PM

The E marking will be an interesting challange.
Have a look at this back box for example, with the marking between the 1 tips:
https://www.ebay-kle...158098-223-2012
No e-number in sight, and i don't think the downpipe has either.

The oem cat had a precat and cat that was 400 cells.
Now 20 years later, that has very often been "upgraded", where the original ended up in the bin as it had little value.
Everybody here could easily pass MOT with an aftermarket version of choice.
The backboxes are still around, but usually missing parts like the 2 hangers, or the u-bend to connect it to the downpipe.
The oem backbox was a baffeled system, where as some aftermarket use absorption.
The baffeled one is the most silent.

1 step back here.
OEM the underside of the VX220 has a large plate under the engine, and a diffuser plate under the backbox part.
So no way the inspection can look for e-marks, without taking your car apart. Are they allowed to do that?
If not, then you just need to focus on a system that has a cat that can pass emissions, and a backbox that can make the noise test.

Do you know what is currently in the car? (manifold, downpipe with cat and backbox)

This is what the bottom looks like.
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Re the trays, exactly the point hairy and I were discussing today, in the UK they cannot take them off for MoTs, or at least I've never heard of them taking them off

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 09:56 AM

I see on the rear undertray there is small diagonal rounded slot - off centre - Can anyone tell me what is visible here? Just wondering if it is a bolt/fixing access and if the catalytic convertor is visible through here (if it has an e mark).



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Posted 16 May 2022 - 10:20 AM

Im waiting to here if the undertray is allowed to be removed for inspection (hoping not obviously)

 

Wheels also need some kind of certification aswell (the car is fitted with TD 1.2s) I think they need to be TUV certified - Pro Race LT is certified from what I can see so Im figuring/hoping the Pro race 1.2 are aswell.

 

In terms of the test its slightly different to the shaken (MOT equivalent) as its the first test of an imported car which was not sold in Japan (yes the speedster is identical but on the paperwork the name/brand of car is different) so its more difficult to pass. It will be treated like a new car and the shaken will be 3 years later.

 

 



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Posted 16 May 2022 - 04:27 PM

I see on the rear undertray there is small diagonal rounded slot - off centre - Can anyone tell me what is visible here? Just wondering if it is a bolt/fixing access and if the catalytic convertor is visible through here (if it has an e mark).

 

As it happens, I took a picture for someone else not long ago. You can't see the cat (this is a turbo).

 

http://www.snapfish....441070/SNAPFISH



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Posted 16 May 2022 - 06:49 PM

The E marking will be an interesting challange.

Have a look at this back box for example, with the marking between the 1 tips:

https://www.ebay-kle...158098-223-2012

No e-number in sight, and i don't think the downpipe has either.

 

 

Our cars pre-date actual E markings like is done on current cars, but the (Lotus) part number and identification tag on the silencer should be sufficient to verify it's 'Original Fitment' and be traceable to GM by the guys who do the checks.

 

Same as the downpipe/cat combo. There will be a number etched/engraved into the cat/pipe body that will identify it as an original part.

 

UK parts are usually not very good at having all the 'paperwork' arranged as the UK MOT and such doesn't check things like that so UK manufacturers usually don't go through the effort for approvals unless it's a big company like AP.

 

Expect to need to replace some UK-made parts that need official approval marks for importing as they will be seen as 'track only' in other countries.

 

Replacement parts from Germany usually have official approvals and anything listed and marked as 'ABE' means it's a homologated part that has EU type approval as a replacement. Should be sufficient as a 'official replacement' for the import process too.

 

Of course.. It all still needs to pass the tests :)

 

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 10:26 AM

I would definately need standard injectors as it has VXR injectors on it now and the import guy here said that the VXR injectors would be a problem.

PCM?
I dont know the code for the immobiliser and I have no idea what a MPPS is sorry - if you can explain more, that would be great. 
I know I have a hard job coming but am willing to learn so all help from this forum will be really appreciated. Most Ive done on a VX (a long time ago) was change the suspension and mod the airbox (turbo) so this will be a steep learning curve.

Thank you

PCM = powertrain control module. I should have said ECU as thats what most people would call them.

An MPPS is an interface that reads PCMs. You get a cable with a box and plug it into your PC. The software goes on the PC and you drive it from there.
It plugs in via the OBD2 port under the dashboard, and you can read the actual program on the PCM(ECU). This is the code that contains igniton maps, fuel maps etc.

When you have the program - called a .bin file - saved then you open it in a hex editor, go to a specific line address in the code and you will see 4 numbers. Those are your code numbers.
Hex editors are available free - I use NeoHex. Google will help.

MPPS-alikes can be found on ebay for £20 and will cover your PCM if you pretend it's a 2.2 Astra. With the software in front of you this would be straighforward.

I can talk you through all of this. It sounds 100 times worse than it actually is. The first time you do it it feels like defusing a bomb, then it becomes a few minutes work as routine as changing sparkplugs.


If the PCM you have is a remapped standard one then it will work fine.
If it is a OBD tuner modified one then I think it should work fine, although I can check.
If it is a non-GM GMPT15 (thats the standard unit's name/type) aftermarket one then you may be in a bit more trouble. Although it's wholly possible the immobiliser is actually off in that case.

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 11:39 AM

 

I would definately need standard injectors as it has VXR injectors on it now and the import guy here said that the VXR injectors would be a problem.

PCM?
I dont know the code for the immobiliser and I have no idea what a MPPS is sorry - if you can explain more, that would be great. 
I know I have a hard job coming but am willing to learn so all help from this forum will be really appreciated. Most Ive done on a VX (a long time ago) was change the suspension and mod the airbox (turbo) so this will be a steep learning curve.

Thank you

PCM = powertrain control module. I should have said ECU as thats what most people would call them.

An MPPS is an interface that reads PCMs. You get a cable with a box and plug it into your PC. The software goes on the PC and you drive it from there.
It plugs in via the OBD2 port under the dashboard, and you can read the actual program on the PCM(ECU). This is the code that contains igniton maps, fuel maps etc.

When you have the program - called a .bin file - saved then you open it in a hex editor, go to a specific line address in the code and you will see 4 numbers. Those are your code numbers.
Hex editors are available free - I use NeoHex. Google will help.

MPPS-alikes can be found on ebay for £20 and will cover your PCM if you pretend it's a 2.2 Astra. With the software in front of you this would be straighforward.

I can talk you through all of this. It sounds 100 times worse than it actually is. The first time you do it it feels like defusing a bomb, then it becomes a few minutes work as routine as changing sparkplugs.


If the PCM you have is a remapped standard one then it will work fine.
If it is a OBD tuner modified one then I think it should work fine, although I can check.
If it is a non-GM GMPT15 (thats the standard unit's name/type) aftermarket one then you may be in a bit more trouble. Although it's wholly possible the immobiliser is actually off in that case.

 

Thank you for the great information and help. At the moment it looks like I need a full (standard) exhaust replacement as a minimum. After that Im unsure as yet. Car arrives on 29th of this month. As I find out more I might come back to you for some further help if you are ok with that



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Posted 17 May 2022 - 06:56 PM

Post a wanted for a full oem system here:

https://www.facebook...oups/2243368893

More traffic on there unfortunately.



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Posted 17 May 2022 - 10:53 PM

Post a wanted for a full oem system here:

https://www.facebook...oups/2243368893

More traffic on there unfortunately.

 

Will do - thats my next step - Thank you






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