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[fostero]

Hi all, This is my first post on the forum I was wondering if anyone out there has moved from a Honda Integra Type R to a VX220 Turbo, and if so, how did you find the experience. I've owned an Integra for 4 years but I've always liked the VX220. A friend of mine took me out for a spin in his modded turbo a few weeks back and I was suitably impressed! It was a very different experience to the Integra (just a little bit quicker ) but I loved the feel of the car as well. Cheers Ian

[RAB2000]

Hi I've had my VX220 T for a month and i'm loving it! I came from a diesel golf so can't help you on the progression front. But coming from ITR seems a good step as ITR's one of the "rawest" FWD car out there as far as I know. If youre after a VXT now's the time to do it - they're pretty cheap 2nd hand at the moment and hopefully they should start to steady out soon in anticipation of the summer (and then start falling again at the end of the summer) Network Q / vauxhall websites good place to look and of course the for sale boards here Good luck

[SSH1]

I think Purebob had an Integra type R & went to a VX N/A He's not on here so much nowdays, but if you have a search through some of his posts you will probably find some interesting stuff, or try sending him a PM he may get back to you.

[Jim_Cross]

If you have a search through some of Purebob's earlier posts you should find some comparisons, though he has an NA rather than a T. From what I remember, he felt the VX is actually easier to live with than the ITR. He also much prefers the VX engine. Although not as characterful, I think he got a little bit fed up of having to rag the ITR to get anywhere. However, he did miss the extra 2k rpm at first, but I guess it's something you'd get used to after a while (after you've hit the limiter a few times )

[fostero]

Thanks all - I've had a search around and found some ITR related posts so I'll get reading... Cheers Ian

[Chuck]

I have a Civic Type R and a VXT. I have one thing to say within my driving limits. MID RANGE PUNCH

[cheeky_chops]

how do you find the high reving ITR? Different prospect to the lazy torque of the vauxhall 2.2, even more so with the 2.0 turbo - both run out of puff at 6000rpm though. If you like to thrash the nuts off it, have you looked at the elise 111r as its got the toyota vvti unit. welcome

[Jaakko]

I came over from a Clio Cup if that helps. Not quite as revvy as the ITR but still 7200. I'm on an N/A now and I like the torque of the engine, good progress without having to rev the nuts off it. Every thing else feels lardy after driving a VX, I also feel that VX is infinitely more exploitable thanks to the feedback you get. Drive one and you'll be hooked I was

[fostero]

how do you find the high reving ITR? Different prospect to the lazy torque of the vauxhall 2.2, even more so with the 2.0 turbo - both run out of puff at 6000rpm though. If you like to thrash the nuts off it, have you looked at the elise 111r as its got the toyota vvti unit.

welcome 

Can't get enough of it - I'd quite happily sit at 8000+ rpm all day long if I could - oh and the sound is awesome I know the turbo engine is a very different experience but I quite fancy giving it a go.

Can't say I'm keen on the looks of the Elise so I wouldn't consider one. The vx on the other hand looks stunning - it's one of the reasons I've always liked them so much

From the brief drive I had in my friends turbo (I think he's called sloww on here) the only negative thing that struck me was the feel of the gear shift compared to the ITR (oh, and my leg hurt when I was sitting in the passenger seat!) but other than that, very tasty indeed!

[JayK]

www.jakan.co.uk Turbo charge your Integra and you'd be sorted! Or you could get a vx turbo and you'd sorted; depends on how you look at it. I love a high reving engine, but then I love the drive of the vx, its a tough one, but if you turboed your Integra then i'd swap with you! Edit: To make it readable to none Chavs

Edited by Bengie, 27 January 2005 - 01:55 PM.

[ShinyAndy]

but if u turbo'd ur teg then id swap u!

Never understood the appeal of high power fwd cars, there's nothing you can do with the power even with good suspension and LSDs. Ultimately you're just going to understeer off into the ditch even more

I turbocharged a VTEC CRX years ago and sold it shortly afterwards as it was absolutely no fun at all, unless I suppose you live your life a quarter mile at a time ?

[jwyatt]

I broadly agree with the anti-FWD sentiments - but if the mags are to be believed, the ITR and Focus RS are the exceptions to the rule, it sounds like both are decent track cars. On the road, the difference is much slimmer, it is often not adviseable to be holding power-oversteer slides exiting every corner... Personally I'd love to try a Focus RS with it's Quaife diff on track, and make my own mind up. I drove a CTR quite a bit and it was frustrating, but it lacked a LSD...

[Mosi]

I drove the Integra R on a test ride and liked it very much, but in comparision to a VXT too much all day car, but too racy for a an all day car at last. On the Autobahn I missed the 6. gear, the VXT hasn't too but torque made a long 5. possible. Perhaps you try a S 2000 ?

[ShinyAndy]

but if the mags are to be believed, the ITR and Focus RS are the exceptions to the rule, it sounds like both are decent track cars. On the road, the difference is much slimmer

Driven both standard and modified ITRs & CTRs on road and track. Personally found them extremely disappointing, too raw for the road and too soft for the track. Didn't seem to do anything that well apart from sound good

[asjp100]

On the road, the difference is much slimmer, it is often not adviseable to be holding power-oversteer slides exiting every corner...

With the VX being mid-engined instead of front engined, you get good traction over the drive wheels.
I think you have to drive it like a stolen rental to get the back out coming out of corners (in the dry anyway )

[JayK]

im sure a teg wud be as much fun as a vx on and of the track, well almost as much fun. as i said Jakan shud have there hybrid teg turbo, after speaking to them they said it will be running approx 300bhp + with a good amount in torque. Shud be done in a few weeks im going to go down and check it out. However wants to edit this to make it none chav, go ahead! i guess my a-level in english counts for nothing now (oh cuz this is my a-level exam) its a forum ffs.

[SSH1]

(oh cuz this is my a-level exam) its a forum ffs.

That doesn't mean you have to write like a f*cking illiterate retard.

Edited by SSH1, 28 January 2005 - 10:28 AM.

[Bengie]

(oh cuz this is my a-level exam) its a forum ffs.

That doesn't mean you have to write like a f*cking illiterate retard.

GPWM

It's a forum. The way you write makes it hard for people to understand what you are trying to say.

All people can go on to form an idea of what you are like are the words you post.

Think about that next time you post.

[fostero]

Driven both standard and modified ITRs & CTRs on road and track. Personally found them extremely disappointing, too raw for the road and too soft for the track. Didn't seem to do anything that well apart from sound good

I've heard a few people say similar things. It's strange as I see the ITR as a nice comfy ride, not in the least bit "raw" - even the stereo doesn't sound too bad after you stick a decent set of speakers in it

[Jim_Cross]

300bhp. Fwd. Why?! It's quite clear that even the 200bhp hot hatches out now are slightly overpowered. Even my brother's 167bhp Gti-6 suffered torque. The answer really is to drop a CTR engine into the VX. Who's going to be the first to do it?