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#1 Paul

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 10:48 AM

A while ago I had steam coming from the top of the engine, nothing serious the garage said it was a known problem due to rain getting in and then boiling off when the engine gets hot. They have got a plastic rain guard in to stop this happening, but since then I have had the AMD Stage 2 - so I am concerned about heat build up. Before I phone the garage to get it fitted: Will the rain guard affect the cooling at all? - anyone know if it is easy to remove in the summer?

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 11:26 AM

if your at Plans this Saturday - there are some interesting cooling mods that can be done. Lookout for the red VXR. Dave

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 11:45 AM

if your at Plans this Saturday - there are some interesting cooling mods that can be done. Lookout for the red VXR.


I'm intrigued! :unsure: What sort of mods? (Unfortunately I can't be at Plans on Saturday.) :(

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 11:52 AM

Chav style cutouts on the butresses...

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 12:11 PM

I have the vauxhall engine cover on mine, but mine is metal. My car has a stage 2 and is fine. It is only about 3 screws to take off and real easy. I will remove it in the summer.

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 12:37 PM

Chav style cutouts on the butresses...

LOL - thanks Bengie! They do actually work!!

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 01:28 PM

Chav style cutouts on the butresses...

LOL - thanks Bengie! They do actually work!!

i think they look cool as B) thumbsup

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 02:06 PM

Chav style cutouts on the butresses...

IMO you are very wrong Bengie, perhaps you should see them before you comment but hey ho it's an oppinion for what it counts.


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Munkeh no doubt a few piccys will be forthcoming with or course as normal destructive comments :angry: but if the mods work then this gives people more options.

Edited by Dave, 01 March 2005 - 02:11 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2005 - 02:33 PM

Dave: No doubt I am wrong, I made the judgement on photographs Geoff has posted. However looking at the picture in your sig, I'm not sure you should be allowed to pass judgement on what is tasteful or not. As a serious question Geoff: How do you know that the mods work? Have you measured underbonnet temperatures before & after. I only say this, as on the VXT I had for a while, yes there was some heat coming out from all over the standard vents, but the hottest place, by far, was over the 'heat chimney' that was placed over the exhaust manifold. I can see that they will allow a greater area for air to flow from when the car is stationary, but as there is no, presumably, additional places for the air to enter then I do wonder as to whether you will increase overall volume. When the car is in motion, if this area is at a low pressure, then yes they will help to remove air from the engine bay, but what if it's at a higher pressure - you may even hinder the flow of air.

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 02:44 PM

Bengie a far more constructive reply thats all we want.

Your latter comments do show a degree of thought.

Perhaps if your original comments were a little tounge and cheek then a few well placed smilies would aid the readers in interpreting them. Just a thought. :o :D for example. :beat:

It just appears a bit rude to say "Chav" when you do not know what efforts have gone into Geoff's project. If you knew the man and spoke to him without the sly comments you would learn so much.

Dave "nuff said eh?"

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 02:51 PM

What about if my original comments weren't tongue in cheek though. I think that they are chav.

Your post made out that it was some magical heat removal remedy, and therefore, as far as I'm concerned, were just as useful as my original post.


Edit: Misplaced comma

Edited by Bengie, 01 March 2005 - 02:58 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2005 - 03:59 PM

Me here!!! I originally did them as A. I liked them on the Colin Blower car and B. if they thought them worthwhile then that is good enough for me. The other ones which only Dave has seen will surely get everyone giving opinions right left and centre - extreme Chav no doubt!! Personally I don't mind what other people think - its my car and whatever I do to it is on my back. If you like it them OK - if not then mutter obscenities to yourself as I don't really care!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) thumbsup

Edited by geofflowe, 01 March 2005 - 04:00 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2005 - 04:04 PM

Exactly the right attitude... What gets my goat is the sycophants jumping up to help you defend something that doesn't need defending. It's your car, do what you like with it. B)

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 04:07 PM

sycophants

Nice word Lee thumbsup Morrissey song with this word in anyone? ( syncophantic slags )

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 04:17 PM

Well, I'm neither a sycophant nor a chav, and I like those vents :rolleyes: Anything that i) helps airflow through the intercooler and out through the engine bay, and ii) helps to reduce heat soak when the car is stationary is a worthwhile mod in my book. Besides.... [Chav mode] They look cool as... :P [/Chav mode]

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 07:33 PM

Anything that helps airflow through the intercooler

nail on the head - More air thru the IC, means a cooler charge thumbsup

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 07:41 PM

But that's my point.

How do you know that there is more air going through...

If these vents are in a high pressure area, compared to that where the inlet for the intercooler is, then you may not get more airflow.

It will probably help loads, but until it's tested properly, it's just a cosmetic mod.

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 07:57 PM

A while ago I had steam coming from the top of the engine, nothing serious the garage said it was a known problem due to rain getting in and then boiling off when the engine gets hot.

They have got a plastic rain guard in to stop this happening, but since then I have had the AMD Stage 2 - so I am concerned about heat build up.

Before I phone the garage to get it fitted:

Will the rain guard affect the cooling at all? - anyone know if it is easy to remove in the summer?

I would just buy a shower cap, as I like you was worried about heat soak. thumbsup

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Posted 01 March 2005 - 09:38 PM

But that's my point.

How do you know that there is more air going through...

If these vents are in a high pressure area, compared to that where the inlet for the intercooler is, then you may not get more airflow.

It will probably help loads, but until it's tested properly, it's just a cosmetic mod.

You seem to be spoiling for a row in something you know little about - if its good enought for colin blower with 30 years of racing, its good enough for us

oh just to add, the back of the car is a low pressure area - hence the reason for lift and need for a wing

Edited by cheeky_chops, 01 March 2005 - 09:39 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2005 - 09:57 PM

...perhaps I'll just cover them up again to save the arguements!! :9mm:




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