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[Guy182]

thanks for the reply.. that was my thinking too that it would put the geo out, as thats why they go to specialists to be setup? still bit of confusion flying around though. somepeople say the suspension needs to be removed to remove the driveshaft? others say the engine can lift out with out removing the suspension? im guessing without removing the suspension then the engine just lifts and the driveshafts are able to be pried out at an angle from the box as you hoist up?

[Winstar]

I think the theory is that to get to the clutch on a transverse engine you've got 2 choices, you can either: 1. Leave the engine attached from the car, pull the drive shafts from the gearbox then dissconect the bell housing and drop the gearbox out to get to the clutch (just like I've done with my Punto). However to do this you have to disconect either the hubs carriers, which would potentially change the Geo, or the wishbones can is a PITA to get to without a wobble extension bar*, not sure how this would affect geo. this will then allow you to move the drive shafts out of the gearbox. Or 2. Dissconect the engine from the mounts and the bellhousing and move the engine away from the gearbox to get to the clutch/flywheel. This leaves all the suspension and geo in place but require clam off and engine hoist. *I know as I took one off to change a ball joint.

Edited by Winstar, 29 March 2007 - 08:11 PM.

[Guy182]

im assuming from your second method you mean leave the gearbox where it is and the driveshafts in and lift the engine. so there must be enough room at the side to slide the engine out from the gearbox spline then?

[jasvxt]

Why fook about take it to someone who knows what they are doing

[Winstar]

im assuming from your second method you mean leave the gearbox where it is and the driveshafts in and lift the engine.

so there must be enough room at the side to slide the engine out from the gearbox spline then?

From reading above I'm not so sure how much room there is between the FEAD and the subframe, but most definatley a clam off job, saying that i wouldnt want to attempt it first time with the calm on as it's always a nightmare finding all the bolts to the bell housing.

Why fook about take it to someone who knows what they are doing

1) Some of us actually, no matter how much we complain, actually get a sense of satisfaction from doing it ourselves.

2) Not all of us can afford to pay someone alot more than we get per hour to do a job that we can do our selves with a bit of effort, even if it takes me twice as long to do a job it's still cheaper than getting someone to do. Plus the fact i'd first have to take a day off work to get to a place i'd trust then have to add the cost of a tank of fuel as well.

[Guy182]

Why fook about take it to someone who knows what they are doing

400-500 labour
tank of fuel at least traveling
300+ more miles on the car, for a job i should be able to do myself

i also like doing things myself as you get to learn and understand the car more.
helps if things go wrong!

im assuming from your second method you mean leave the gearbox where it is and the driveshafts in and lift the engine.

so there must be enough room at the side to slide the engine out from the gearbox spline then?

From reading above I'm not so sure how much room there is between the FEAD and the subframe, but most definatley a clam off job, saying that i wouldnt want to attempt it first time with the calm on as it's always a nightmare finding all the bolts to the bell housing.

definately a clam off job yeah, was thinking i could take the clam off, leave the suspension/wheels on and push it back into my garage overnight, then do the clutch change another day, allowing a full day for it.

just need clarification of whether you leave hte gearbox in situ with the driveshafts in while you lift the engine out, or whether you can lift the engine/gearbox out together and release the driveshafts as you hoist the engine out.

gonna fit chargecooler at same time too so saving on like 900+ quids worth of labour altogether.

[jasvxt]

Nothing against you guys doing it yourself, but some jobs are just to big to do IMO, and if you bugger it up you've no one else to blame but yourself. Good luck Guys but i would rather have someone else take responsibility for this kind of job, at least then i have a warranty and comeback. Jas

[Winstar]

if you bugger it up you've no one else to blame but yourself.

at least then i have a warranty and comeback.

Exactly if it goes tit's up then there's nobody to winge about, but by the same token I'll make sure I do the job right. A clutch isn't a big job it's just that, as with anthing on the VX, the packaging is so tight you have to remove alot of body work to get at it.

Warrenty and comeback, not much use if the place is miles away is it? is work by a garage warrentied anyway, or is it just good will?

[Guy182]

back to this again.... been to a local place today (he works for hyundais rally team) and they said they wouldnt want to remove the clam and would prefer to disasemble the suspension and change it that way think this is how horizon do it so it must be possible?? can anyone confirm if it can be done with leaving clam on and just removing the suspension to gain access. they havent done a vx before but will work on anything and said it will be a good days work looking at around 250 quid. (29+vat per hour) in their workshop were two hyundai rally cars sat being worked on.. mental bits of kit! alcon 6 pots with 6 individual brake pads in, and the sexiest ohlins suspension i have ever seen. they have corner weighting machinery, and 4 wheel laser alignment kit to check the geo before and after the work is done too..

Edited by Guy182, 22 April 2007 - 11:40 PM.

[jasvxt]

Not chickened out have we Guy

[Guy182]

lol, cant be arsed taking the clam off really..

[vocky]

it's not difficult to remove the engine and gearbox, just very time consuming it took me four hours just to remove the rear clam and the same again to refit it it's not possible to remove the driveshafts by lifting the engine and gearbox, the hubs need to be disconnected from the suspension arms