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[minime]

just spoken to brooke kensington about having the 4 stud lotus setup in order to have off the shelf wheels and tyres..... when they looked at paulb s car they had to change not only the hubs but also the disks...... the wheel tyre combination is £1500...they do not have a price yet for the hubs and disks but have said that they will contact me this afternoon about it......they did say it takes about half a day to do the upgrade! me thinks this little change will cost close to £2500-3000 what do you guys think? ps the fronts will only be 16".....

[cheeky_chops]

me thinks this little change will cost close to £2500-3000

laughable for some poxy wheels - you over half way to a supercharger for that! You know you want to

[minime]

me thinks before upping the power further, grippier rubber is more important as this will enable faster speeds in the bends and also much later braking! reading thu rickkies experiences makes me think this is the way to go! also if you read the articles on the elise 190 v vxt it states that the rubber on the 190 gives it at least a 3 sec advantage!

[Steve Crisp]

Hi Steve, The only problem we have is the current choice of rim sizes. The hubs and disk, etc. are fine. So....we just need to get people like OZ to provide the right size rims surely? As Ricky found, the PCD (110 mm) is only two mm away from Mercedes (112mm), so wooble washers will allow these rims to fit our car. Steve

[minime]

i have just asked south coast wheels in southampton to source the mercedes oz s with the ao48s.......as you say steve the wobbly bolt maybe the way ahead as per ricki!

[paulb]

It was never going to be a cheap option. New discs needed because of the 4 stud design. BK also tried the Lotus 4 pot callipers (which is the only way I can think of getting bigger brakes right now until someone like Highspec are persuaded to come up with the goods). Big brakes is the only reason I can see for this conversion to be honest. I think I'm likely to go the 5x112 route when the time comes (need to wait a while as redundancy is looming ) Steve - I thought you were going with Toora or something like that? Paul

[minime]

hi guys.. i have got a price back from south coast wheels for a set of oz superleggas with 5 x112 pcd..... £600 per set 7x16 fronts 8x17 rears....( inc vat i think...) inc tyre fitting and balancing!!!! brooke kensington ao48s fronts 120 + vat rears 150 + vat! what do you think about this?

[Thorney]

As you know we've been looking into this and the advice I've been given by the team guys at Nitron: 1. Don't use wobbly bolts, they called wobbly bolts for a reason, especially on a track. The fact that Ricky has got away with it scares them silly. 2. We will soon have Speedlines in the correct wheel size (takes a while, I'm sorry) which will allow sticky rubber we all want. Don't rush into this, there IS a solution coming, just bide your time. The BK solution is one way round it but £3k odd is daft. 3. We WILL have uprated brakes soon (from AP) so again, give me a bit more time and we will have it sorted.

[minime]

hi all! south coast wheels have just rung to say that if you want the superleggas poerede coated black ( or probably other colours too) the price will be £800! still a bargain! and this price does include tyres fitted and balanced! if you call them ask for steve he knows all about this!

[rasputin]

sounds good thorny cant wait. any idea on weights i have just replaced my rears for toyos and that combo seems really heavy hang on ill just go weigh one. 21 ks can we halve it for speedline? ian

[BogBrush]

How are you finding the Toyos rasputin?

[speedyK]

We will soon have Speedlines in the correct wheel size (takes a while, I'm sorry)

Thorney, this sounds better and better

A few questions :

Weren't the photos you posted a while back OZ's – or did I just dream that?

Are these Speedlines a similar multispoke, one-piece rim type? Photo?

By "correct" wheel size, do you now mean 16" fronts?

Will there be a black/anthracite option?

Are the uprated brakes fronts only? Approx. price? Discs to match?

No hurry BTW, I can wait till the New Year now.

[Thorney]

I posted a pic of the Speedlines (they look pretty much identical to the Oz's), model name is Tourini, pic attached. We'll have 16" and 17". Brakes we've gone for one of AP's racing range, 4 pot up front and either swap the fronts for the rears (a la Sprint) or run the same 4 pots on the rears too. Nitron are evangelical that we should run 4 pots on the rear as thats where the grip issues come into play (race car will have 6 pots up front and 4 pots on rear and a mahoosive wing - which I'll put on my car cos it looks so good and makes such a massive difference to downforce ) (I can't say what exactly we're doing on the race cars for obvious reasons)

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[Ricky2772]

1. Don't use wobbly bolts, they called wobbly bolts for a reason, especially on a track. The fact that Ricky has got away with it scares them silly.

did they elaborate further why?!?
I know several trackers with such "wobblies" and no problems ever reported (so far...)

...I could imagine loosing/dropping a washer while reinstalling the tyres could generate vibrations, but you would notice it immediately, and stop....

[Thorney]

A couple of reasons, firstly you can never be sure on the torque achieved through the bolt as the additional parts = additional movement and that creates risk. Secondly the level of stress through the bolt in track conditions (and with sticky tyres is significant) and any aditional risk should be avoided. There have been failures on a variety of cars (none we know of on VX's you'll be happy to know) but the bottom line is thats its a risk that they personally wouldn't want to take. I always sound so doom and gloom with your mods Ricky and I don't mean to be, I just thought this kind of information is best sharing.