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[JG]

bit rubbish isn't it? GT4 on PS2 is much better, although i only ever played with the vx around the nurbergring.

[M3 BFG]

Dead right but Forza 2 will be much better than PGR. Won't be out before Christmas though

[NOBLE]

Aye PGR (i thought) was shite. Get Test Drive Unlimited to see you through until Forza 2 comes out in the new year.

Edited by X8 CJN, 06 December 2006 - 10:38 AM.

[Crimson_Killa]

You are right, but PGR was designed as a stop gap. Its a release title for the 360 and with that token can only be compared with Ridge Racer 2 on the ps2, GT4 was realeased after over 5 years of development know how on the ps2 PGR was after 6 or 12 months use of a final machine before realease. Gears of War is the first true next gen game so all the other current 360 games inc TDU and PGR are using older techniques. You can only draw a comparison after the same amount of experience time for developers of the 360 has elapsed in comparison to the ps2 but yes you are right PGR is a bit out of date already. and X8 CJN is also right that TDU is better than PGR but the real biggie will be Forza Motorsport 2

[Richy]

Gears of War is the first true next gen game so all the other current 360 games inc TDU and PGR are using older techniques

Indeed, i wasn't impressed with PGR or G.R.A.W for that matter. Graphics were sharper but game was old and tired.

Colin Mc's DIRT should be good.. its been classed as a next Gen game.

[Ash]

What makes a game "next gen", is it HD or something similar or the way the code is written?

[Crimson_Killa]

What makes a game "next gen", is it HD or something similar or the way the code is written?

The idea of true next gen is using a new game engine built to produce HD graphics that is not replicated on non next gen machines.

Ie Gears of War uses a new game engine built for next gen / HD and will not be "ported" to a non next gen console. (PCs dont count as they can produce Next Gen visuals already)

the reason for TDU not being next gen is it is using the havok engine which was originaly built for PS2 etc and the game will also be ported on to the PS2 in the near future.

[john_s]

What makes a game "next gen", is it HD or something similar or the way the code is written?

I think it's just an evolution that's takes place as the game programmers start to make better use of the higher graphics and processing power of the new consoles. They begin to better understand the specific functions / system calls as they've had more time to work with the new hardware.

[paulf-cam]

What makes a game "next gen", is it HD or something similar or the way the code is written?

Simply a game running on the new generation of consoles.

You might say a game didn't look "next gen" even though it was running on the 360 or PS3 to mean you expected it to look better given the advances in hardware between generations of consoles...

[Crimson_Killa]

What makes a game "next gen", is it HD or something similar or the way the code is written?

Simply a game running on the new generation of consoles.

You might say a game didn't look "next gen" even though it was running on the 360 or PS3 to mean you expected it to look better given the advances in hardware between generations of consoles...

Thats not actauly true, my above comments clarify the difference between next gen and not next gen, the coding and the game have to be exclusive to the next gen console unlike TDU which will be realeased on PS2 and PGR which uses old generation techniques.

Gears of War is so far the only released next gen game as the coding behind it are new and the game itself is exclusive to next gen consoles.

Simple really

[paulf-cam]

Thats not actauly true, my above comments clarify the difference between next gen and not next gen, the coding and the game have to be exclusive to the next gen console unlike TDU which will be realeased on PS2 and PGR which uses old generation techniques.

Gears of War is so far the only released next gen game as the coding behind it are new and the game itself is exclusive to next gen consoles.

Simple really

Sorry mate, i work for Sony (as a games programmer) - technically a next gen game is one which runs on the "next" generation of consoles; typically as seen from the perspective of the previous generation.

Ta, Paul.

[Crimson_Killa]

Thats not actauly true, my above comments clarify the difference between next gen and not next gen, the coding and the game have to be exclusive to the next gen console unlike TDU which will be realeased on PS2 and PGR which uses old generation techniques.

Gears of War is so far the only released next gen game as the coding behind it are new and the game itself is exclusive to next gen consoles.

Simple really

Sorry mate, i work for Sony (as a games programmer) - technically a next gen game is one which runs on the "next" generation of consoles; typically as seen from the perspective of the previous generation.

Ta, Paul.

So you are telling me that Gun that was released on both Xbox Xbox360 and Ps2 is viewed as a next gen game???

[paulf-cam]

So you are telling me that Gun that was released on both Xbox Xbox360 and Ps2 is viewed as a next gen game???

Well, the 360 version ought to be, otherwise you're paying your money for a straight port which wouldn't be worth it if the game didn't look any better!

Edited by paulf-cam, 08 December 2006 - 11:22 AM.

[Dazzer]

Who here has a XBox 360? I like PGR. Have sold my PS2 on Ebay after playing it! My name on XBox Live is DazzerVR6 Be my "friend" and I,ll take you on round the Nurburgring.