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[cyberface]

As part of the usual ongoing Elise vs VX comparison, my main contention is that the VXT has a much more rear-biased weight distribution, allowing a very different driving style (which I enjoy). However I can't find real figures for the VXT anywhere. So far: Elise S2 - 38% front, 62% rear VX N/A - 37% front, 63% rear VXT - ? The Elise vs VX N/A is not surprising given the ally block on the N/A but the Turbo has an iron block. Anyone know the real figures? PS. This is NOT another 'which car is better' thread, I'm bored shitless of those now and couldn't care less whether the Elise is a better car or not. I have driven plenty of both and the VXT really feels more 911-like in its handling, I'd like to know whether this is purely weight distribution (as is my hunch) or whether it's due to the softer suspension settings on the VXT.

[c18gmr]

A dutch owner cheched his VXT a week ago. With 3/4 full tank and the driver (which was 83kg), the total weight was 1.002 kg. Weight on each wheel was as following: Front-Left 198 kg, F-R 192kg, Rear-Left 318kg, R-R 294kg.

from this thread
http://www.vx220.org...showtopic=55207

[ronbot]

So for the VXT that is 39% front 61%rear?? i.e the tubby appears less rear biased than the others which doesn't seem right considering its additional pig iron in the boot:-)! I am guessing that the VX NA and S2 figures dont include the driver then??

Edited by ronbot, 15 August 2007 - 11:21 AM.

[Code Monkey]

So for the VXT that is 39% front 61%rear?? i.e the tubby appears less rear biased than the others which doesn't seem right considering its additional pig iron in the boot:-)!

I am guessing that the VX NA and S2 figures dont include the driver then??

For all the talk of pig iron and other comments, was there ever proof that the engine in the back of the turbo is actually a lot heavier than the NA unit? Different processes in build and manufacture of the two engines would possibly result in figures closer than expected.

Could not most of the tail heavier feel of the turbo be due to the softer suspension settings?

[slindborg]

could be that yes its heavier but the weight is more forwards than the N/A since the turbo and exhaust all hang further towards the middle of the car...

[Westyman]

As part of the usual ongoing Elise vs VX comparison, my main contention is that the VXT has a much more rear-biased weight distribution, allowing a very different driving style (which I enjoy). However I can't find real figures for the VXT anywhere.


PS. the VXT really feels more 911-like in its handling, I'd like to know whether this is purely weight distribution (as is my hunch) or whether it's due to the softer suspension settings on the VXT.

Cyberface,

Having discussed this subject with you over email a few months back I'm in agreement with you in that the VXT feels very 911 like in its characteristics. Suppose that was the reason I didn't take too long to get the 'feel' of now that I've got used to my VXT.
Still miss my 993's brakes though.

John

[cyberface]

As part of the usual ongoing Elise vs VX comparison, my main contention is that the VXT has a much more rear-biased weight distribution, allowing a very different driving style (which I enjoy). However I can't find real figures for the VXT anywhere.


PS. the VXT really feels more 911-like in its handling, I'd like to know whether this is purely weight distribution (as is my hunch) or whether it's due to the softer suspension settings on the VXT.

Cyberface,

Having discussed this subject with you over email a few months back I'm in agreement with you in that the VXT feels very 911 like in its characteristics. Suppose that was the reason I didn't take too long to get the 'feel' of now that I've got used to my VXT.
Still miss my 993's brakes though.

John

Yup - and I'm very very surprised by the results above regarding weight... I really thought the VXT was much more rear biased....

If it's just suspension settings, then I'm keeping them as they are, I actually really like it. It may not be the fastest car on track, and may not keep up with the Elises, but I enjoy the way I have to drive it. And that's what it's all about, really

Agree with you re: brakes, Porker brakes are great... especially with decent pads... but I'm sure that a combo of the 4-channel ABS module and Thorney's AP kit would solve that nicely. Most of the time the standard kit is fine with Mintex pads, but the odd ABS randomness every so often reduces confidence somewhat... assuming the 4-channel module solves this then I'll definitely be upgrading when I'm in the position to spend money on the car

[chetwin]

For the record, when I had my VXT corner weighted, the ratio front rear was very similar to that above. 38.6% front, 61.4 % rear. Overall weight of 981kg, with 1/2 tank fuel and driver - (bit lighter than standard due to Oz's, nitrons and Milltek).