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[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

Really feel for you mate. People don't realise these cars aren't 'bump' friendly. I was involved in a shunt the other day in my company shed (a Pug) and all that happened was a little scrape on the number plate. If I'd been in the VX it would have been a new rear clam for sure.

Some people actually believe that 'bumpers' are meant to bumping. Fu*king idiots.

thanks for the hugs simon
she is ready to go to the chase sunday at 6 am no matter what
need to change the indicator bulb and will have no front number plate cant be bother to fixed it got a good escuse for it

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

any one has the number for europa might give them a ring tomorrow
got a call from a friend and should hear more in the end of the week
got a letter from kent police stating it can take up to two month for initial enquiries to be completed !!!!!!!!!!

Edited by crazyfrog, 22 July 2008 - 07:10 PM.

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

have instructed europa to take other my case so for the time being the thread will be dormant...will resume when the matter is sorted

[JG]

europa won't help you unless the other party admits liability straight away i'm afraid.

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

europa won't help you unless the other party admits liability straight away i'm afraid.

that isnt my case and they've started to help me...
car is being assess on Monday morning and so far she hasn't claim liability !!!
police cid phone me yesterday was out so maybe some good news for me
so far they have been a great help

Edited by crazyfrog, 26 July 2008 - 05:12 AM.

[jazzyjeff]

europa won't help you unless the other party admits liability straight away i'm afraid.

Sorry James, but that's rubbish (I know from personal experience)!

JJ

[jazzyjeff]

police cid phone me yesterday was out so maybe some good news for me
so far they have been a great help

Well that is an achievement in itself Most cops I've met couldn't be bothered to investigate their way out of a paper bag

JJ

[Whippet]

CID eh? You got friends there? I'm surprised the detectives are bothered with something as 'menial' as a non stop damage only RTC... Nope... minor RTCs aren't on the list of performance targets blessed upon our forces by Labour so they get bugger all priority... I can't ever remember the Home Secretary ever banging on about how she's improving life for victims of non stops... The Gov set targets and we are forced to work to them... which is a shame as most bobbies hate these ****ers and would love to see them get some sort of justice...

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

police cid phone me yesterday was out so maybe some good news for me
so far they have been a great help

Well that is an achievement in itself Most cops I've met couldn't be bothered to investigate their way out of a paper bag

JJ

i know thanks for the tip btw
i will take any help at the moment so will give them a ring on monday to see whats happening
ps i do pay a lots of tax so thats why sometimes we need them and they have to perform they duties no matter what
there are law in this country as well so to me it isnt a minor incident ... imagine if everyone who commit a crime wouldnt be punish ? (i know most of them dont btw )
it will be anarchy
i am fully insured and now thats they job
people come to me to be feed and watered and i get pay for... now i pay tax and expect them to react and do something about it
even if i have to ring everyday i will i have right and intend to carry on to be this way
europa have been great so far and they intend to push the matter as far as they can i know its a business for them but if you do your work as good as you can well done
i only do business with people who care

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

any way following this thread i am even more p*ss off btw now the car has been assess by both parties and the insurance one say no way she could have made this damage the police went to see her and show her the yellow paint on her car mine is full of blue paint as well so where do i stand??? life is never fair i know but why should i pay for someone mistake next week will be a interesting week i will have the car repair with my insurance because i miss driving the vx and its not fair after six week now what is the matter with people those days am i going insane ??? i think i need a drink tonight

Edited by crazyfrog, 05 September 2008 - 10:14 PM.

[Sutol]

stay strong Fab, this is a war of attrition, stick to your guns and you will win. Every minute they spend arguing about it is costing them money.

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

stay strong Fab, this is a war of attrition, stick to your guns and you will win. Every minute they spend arguing about it is costing them money.

yes but we talking heavy money if they follow the fight plus she didn't denied to be at the place on the Saturday morning
i must call the copper as a witness when they went to see the car
anyway i'll try to be in a better mood sunday btw
had a sh**t week and that top it up
next week i,ll have plenty expresso tonight i'll finish my wine first
sometime i understand to be gay

[crsnwby]

If its gets arsey just demand a molecular breakdown of the paint on each others cars form the police as 99.9 percent match would prove it was her and its bangged to rights.. fukin pikeys p*ss me off.

[vocky]

take a paint sample of the blue paint and tell the 'other' partys insurance you will get it tested to prove it was her car and THEY will end up paying that bill too don't even think of giving up, fight for your rights

[james141]

If this ends up in court and that looks like where it is heading at this rate, in civil court it is all about the balance of probabilities, you just need to amass as much evidence as you can including statements from the police, witnesses, damage reports, photos etc etc sounds like you would have a pretty strong case. I had a similar thing a few years ago, the other party was denying it and denying it. It went on for about a year but at the first sign of my insurance wanting to take them to court they caved in and admitted it all! not may people want to go in front of a judge and lie through their teeth over something so stupid but they will happily lie to their (and your) insurance company. So just hang in there and good luck!!

[Yellow_or_black?]

europa won't help you unless the other party admits liability straight away i'm afraid.

Same with me - the car was even assessed before the other party admitted liability.

sometime i understand to be gay

[convict]

europa won't help you unless the other party admits liability straight away i'm afraid.

that isnt my case and they've started to help me...

So who pays europa's bill if she and her insurance company don't admit liability?

[Yellow_or_black?]

I guess they assume that some way or other the case will conclude with a successful claim. Perhaps in the Ts & Cs there is something which says that the client has to pay if all else fails. And/or perhaps they only take on cases which they are sure they can 'win', because there is enough evidence (eg to succeed if it went to court). I had a witness, and questioned Mike at Europa to ask if there was any way this would end unsuccessfully for me, and he said that ultimately there wasn't - although it had the potential to be long-winded.

[convict]

I guess they assume that some way or other the case will conclude with a successful claim. Perhaps in the Ts & Cs there is something which says that the client has to pay if all else fails.

And/or perhaps they only take on cases which they are sure they can 'win', because there is enough evidence (eg to succeed if it went to court). I had a witness, and questioned Mike at Europa to ask if there was any way this would end unsuccessfully for me, and he said that ultimately there wasn't - although it had the potential to be long-winded.

I suspect you're right about them only taking un-loseable cases, but equally, how likely was he to tell you "Well, yes, there's a chance it will end unsuccessfully and you'll be left owing us a shed load of cash".

I've always assumed this is in the t&c; if we can't claim on the other parties insurance, you'll be liable for the fees. I'd hate to be on the receiving end of the bill from a company like europa, esp if it includes 'like for like' hire car charges.

[Crazyfrog (Fab)]

I guess they assume that some way or other the case will conclude with a successful claim. Perhaps in the Ts & Cs there is something which says that the client has to pay if all else fails.

And/or perhaps they only take on cases which they are sure they can 'win', because there is enough evidence (eg to succeed if it went to court). I had a witness, and questioned Mike at Europa to ask if there was any way this would end unsuccessfully for me, and he said that ultimately there wasn't - although it had the potential to be long-winded.

cant say too much but didnt do nothing wrong and miss the vx so ey we go
next week will be fun i expect
never mind i will concentrate on tomorrow