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#1 speedyK

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 07:12 PM

The No. 1 competent German petrolhead mag "Sport Auto" has given the Turbo the full test treatment (all usual measurements plus Nurbürgring lap time and Hockenheim small circuit lap time). The reference car is the Z4 3litre.

Overall, the Turbo wins – though it comes in for some criticism.

Lap time Nurbürgring Nordschleife (clear full lap without any of the interuption and missing bit that tourists have through using the toll set-up):

Turbo 8.34 min
Z4 8.32 min

Hockenheim:

Turbo 1.17.1 min
Z4 1.18.1 min

Accel/Braking 0 – 200km/h –0:

Turbo 28.0 sec (0 – 200 22.9 sec, 200 – 0 5.1 sec)
Z4 32.5 sec (0 – 200 27.5 sec, 200 – 0 5.0 sec)

Aerodynamic balance (closed roof):

Turbo frontal surface area (A) 1.61 sq.m, Drag (Cw) 0.38, A x Cw = 0.61
Z4 frontal surface area (A) 1.91 sq.m, Drag (Cw) 0.36, A x Cw = 0.69

Turbo front axle 23kg downforce, rear axle lift 19kg *
Z4 front axle 25kg lift, rear axle lift 43kg

* without roof, Turbo improves (downforce at front goes up from 221 Newton to 254 Newton, lift at rear reduced from 186 to 142 Newton) Does not say what effect open roof has on drag though... presumably increased, therefore better cornering, lower Vmax.

Maximum lateral forces in cornering*:

Turbo 1.2 g – criticised for understeering, skinny front tyres
Z4 1.2 g

* measured in the banked Sachs Curve – on normal corners circa 1.05–1.1 g

Slalom (36 metres) Vmax:

Turbo 129km/h – criticised for understeering, skinny front tyres
Z4 131 km/h

Avoidance Test (110 metres) Vmax:

Turbo 141 km/h
Z4 149 km/h

Final score (out of maximum of 70 points)

Turbo 47
Z4 43

Summary:

"The Turbo suffers from a conflict of interests between two worlds – the absolute purist (read minimalist) philosophy in the spirit of Lotus founder, Colin Chapman – and the attempt to make this more palatable for the masses. But, despite criticism, the car reaches its goal, as the final points show. It's surprisingly quick, has impressive driving dynamics and shows in its conception what a real sportscar should look like. However, considering the superb components, we had expected a little more from it."

Their main criticism is aimed at the skinny front tyres which "cause understeer not on turning in so much, as when the apex is reached and under load when accelerating out. With high changes in loading, as in lifting off suddenly, an abrupt oversteer is induced. Furthermore, even the light, precise steering which is so agile in everyday situations has to be criticised in such situations as the sharp reactions on the limit make it difficult to find the right amount of response. This leads to a very nervous behaviour at the limit because of the changes between over- and understeering result in erratic cornering lines."

They also complain that the ABS is coarsely regulated and causes snaking under braking. The one they tested did not have the optional cross-drilled discs and exhibited fading. They go on to say how the body leans considerably in cornering but the suspension has astounding comfort. They suggest that this "wobbley" cornering and snaking braking is mainly due to the standard suspension being inadequate.

So, basically what we already knew – needs 195's on 16" fronts and adjustable suspension. :)

Z4 didn't do so badly – still hideous though IMO :P

Edited by speedyK, 24 March 2004 - 07:14 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2004 - 07:40 PM

You can download the whole article with pics and maps of N'ring and Hock'ring

HERE :)

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 07:51 PM

They should have put me on the staff.....I could have told em that months ago :P /pats Nitrons and AO48s :)

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 09:05 PM

Interesting that the vx was quicker round Hockenheim but slower round the Nordschleife. I was a bit disappointed when I read that really. I would have said the vx would have kicked the z4's arse on any track. I still reckon it would with 195 fronts.......would be interesting to see what the figures would be for a vxr.

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 10:00 PM

Thanks for the translation service Speedy !!!! :D Surprising how the Z4 got around the track quicker than the VXt.... Esp as it has substancial lift at 200kph :o Did they do the NA originally?? Have you a link to it?? :)

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 10:17 PM

Did they do the NA originally?? Have you a link to it??  :)

They did. I posted details of their N/A vs. S2000 test last year – try a search?

There's no link to that but you could have a look HERE for some more stuff.

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 11:05 PM

The better time at the Nordschliefe is not totally surprising. The average speed over ther whole circuit is very high and it is likely that the BMW pipped it due to its better aerodynamics and extra HP, and the extra weight may have given it better stability. At the hockenheim, where the average speed is slower, this meant that the VXT dynamics and its lighter weight were more advantageous. However I would have expected it to be 2 secs quicker. Pretty dissapointing really. cheers

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 11:46 PM

Lap time Nurbürgring Nordschleife  (clear full lap without any of the interuption and missing bit that tourists have through using the toll set-up):

Turbo 8.34 min
Z4 8.32 min

Hockenheim:

Turbo 1.17.1 min
Z4 1.18.1 min

That really surprises me!

I honestly would have thought the VXT would have whipped the Z4's ass...

'Ring regulars, what're your thoughts?

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Posted 25 March 2004 - 09:29 AM

Interresting stuff. I have an enhanced respect for the Z4 now. Shame it's a tosser's car.

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Posted 25 March 2004 - 12:56 PM

Lap time Nurbürgring Nordschleife  (clear full lap without any of the interuption and missing bit that tourists have through using the toll set-up):

Turbo 8.34 min
Z4 8.32 min

That really surprises me!

I honestly would have thought the VXT would have whipped the Z4's ass...

'Ring regulars, what're your thoughts?

Those are both SMOKING fast full laps of the Ring. Never drove a Z4 there (or a Turbo VX, but about 20 laps in a NA Speedster).

Maybe the VX driver purposesly took things a bit easier through some of the faster corners (Schwedenkreuz, Fuchsrohre, Lauda links, etc) because the Z4 is a bit more forgiving at the limit? Maybe the Z4 had gearing a bit more suitable to the Ring? For all practical purposes, those are identical lap times...

Will be back at the Ring in 2 weeks with the same NA Speedster, just have a few seconds to go to break the 9 minute BTG time (probably add 30 seconds for a "full" lap...)

cheers

Kurt




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