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[DanDare]

Probably need a new ECU , anyone replaced one before and how much did it cost. Other question is what caused it to fail on yours. Could it have been using a jump starter unit as in my case? Dan

[Duncan VXR]

Recall them NOT been cheap new but CS can help you there if you need one. I know Chris on the boards (Kristopha) got one sourced local and paid a lot less but cannot remember the cost of the new or 2nd hand option? Are you sure it's the ECU? DG

[smiley]

I paid 1125 euro incl vat for mine at opel. Keep in mind that opel/vauxhall just go through a checklist with an issue, and tick off new parts just for the fun of it, and stop replacing once fixed, regardless of how many parts needed. Unnessesary replaced parts, are NOT deducted from your bill. YOU pay for the trail and error. The ecu replacement seems quite high on their list. I would suggest to tell us your problem in detail, before handing over buckets of cash to vauxhall. edit; found it: http://www.vx220.org...arting-problems Battery replacement is cheaper

Edited by smiley, 04 May 2010 - 10:21 AM.

[DanDare]

I paid 1125 euro incl vat for mine at opel.

Keep in mind that opel/vauxhall just go through a checklist with an issue, and tick off new parts just for the fun of it, and stop replacing once fixed, regardless of how many parts needed.
Unnessesary replaced parts, are NOT deducted from your bill. YOU pay for the trail and error.
The ecu replacement seems quite high on their list.

I would suggest to tell us your problem in detail, before handing over buckets of cash to vauxhall.

edit; found it:
http://www.vx220.org...arting-problems

Battery replacement is cheaper

Mthe person looking at this does think it is the ECU as the Key transponder is not talking to the engine......... I could ask him to replace the battery first and see what this does but don't think it is the issue as originally car started on a jump start and then then shut down prior to disconnecting jump start source suggesting something had stopped functioning. Car now turns over but won't start.

Dan

Edited by DanDare, 04 May 2010 - 11:00 AM.

[smiley]

If i'm not mistaking, the Key transponder is only connected to the imobiliser. The imoboliser is connected to the ecu (and has a handshake only a techII can make) If you really want to take the ecu road, ask if you're techie has a techII device, with which he can reconnect the handshake between a used ecu, and the imobiliser. (he has to remove the old handshake from the used ecu first) Crafty has an NA ecu lying around: http://cgi.ebay.nl/w...em=110526899036 Legal notice: i'm not a techie and have tried none of this myself. I am just relaying info i learned from the forums.

[Kristopha]

Recall them NOT been cheap new but CS can help you there if you need one. I know Chris on the boards (Kristopha) got one sourced local and paid a lot less but cannot remember the cost of the new or 2nd hand option?

Are you sure it's the ECU?

DG

I got mine from http://www.ecu-express.co.uk/ & it was £300 or £350 cannot remember exactly, with a 12 month warrenty (this is void if you re-map it). It came complete with 2 Transponder chips to insert into your keys. All i had to do was give them the Chasis number and they pre-coded it all so it was plug and play when i recieved it. Pretty good service to be honest.

I was told from http://www.midpointgarage.co.uk who did the work for me that my old one could have failed from heat / being exposed in the boot area.

http://www.midpointgarage.co.uk < If you are local to these guys i would highly recommend them! excellent service & good prices if you mention this forum

[DanDare]

Thanks, Smiley and Kristopha, I am checking other avenues at present but if it is the ECU, thanks for the help in sourcing one. Cheers Dan

[Kristopha]

Thanks, Smiley and Kristopha, I am checking other avenues at present but if it is the ECU, thanks for the help in sourcing one.

Cheers

Dan

I am not 100% sure of your problem but if it is the ECU needs recalbrating to your transponder keys I no Mid point garage have all the equiment there.

I had a boosting problem and i changed everytihng under the sun, From new turbo to every sensor possible costing a fortune.. I never thought it would be the ECU.

Hope you get it sorted anyway.

[greasemonkey]

Thought this might be useful: Field Remedy: 2173 Subject: Engine Z22SE, ECU - Trouble code P1614 (wrong transponder key) stored in ECU Models: Engines: Option: Vectra-B 2001...2003,Astra-G 2001...2005,Astra-G Coupe 2001...2006,Astra-G Cabrio 2001...2006,Zafira 2001...2006,Speedster 2001...2004,VX220 2001...2004 Z22SE,Z22SE,Z22SE,Z22SE,Z22SE,Z22SE,Z22SE Complaint: Trouble code P1614 stored in ECU. Cause: In some cases transponder codes lost due to discharged battery. Production: Remedy: In case of customer complaint proceed according the following instruction: 1. Perform SPS reprogramming. Problem still exist -> 2. Delete transponder key. Program new key (Immo Generation 2). Problem still exist -> 3. Reset ECU in Immobiliser "Additional Functions", Activate Immobiliser in "Programming Function". Problem still exist -> 4. Reset Immobilizer in Immobiliser "Additional Functions", Activate Immobiliser in "Programming Function". Problem still exist -> 5. Replace ECU. FunctionalGroup: J - Engine Complaint Group: 06 - Failure Code Setting by Control Unit Trouble Code: P1614

[greasemonkey]

i work at grimshaws vauxhall preswich manchester, if you get stuck and need programming doing i can help but you would need to get the car to me.

[DanDare]

Cheers will try this Dan

[DanDare]

Ok, update. Got a new battery yesterday was fitted and hey presto ECU and immobilser talking to each other again. Got ECU reprogrammed and my car is running like a dream again . Thanks for all the advice on here, especially for telling me to change battery first. Dan

[techieboy]

Result. Amazing just how quick garages are to rule out something so simple and go for the expensive option.