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[TOTAL VX]

Hi I have previous had experience of fitting bigger discs to my golf and it worked well. The larger discs used existing callipers and there was a spacer for mounting. Does anyone know what fitment the VX runs? I.e. is it the same as a calibre or vectra? If I knew I have a guy who will engineer spacers and bang, bobs your uncle 308mm discs! much better feel and power especially with groves comp spec. TAT do a version using tarox discs but a little pricey but still cheaper than a £1200 to £1600 4 pot set up. Any ideas? rgds IAN

[vocky]

I have astra gsi 308mm discs on mine,but you need 10mm spacers for the calipers and 10mm longer bolts to hold the caliper to the hub 4 pots are not really required on the vx220, just decent pads like mintex 1144 / 1155 or equivilant

[Steve B]

Alcon / AP 295mm (Plans told me they were AP discs but I don't think they are, I think they are Alcon) up front on mine and spacers, RS4-2 Pads all round and braking is great

[slindborg]

I have astra gsi 308mm discs on mine,but you need 10mm spacers for the calipers and 10mm longer bolts to hold the caliper to the hub

4 pots are not really required on the vx220, just decent pads like mintex 1144 / 1155 or equivilant

hactually its more than 10mm of spacers Well I had to put more than 10mm of spacer onto mine when I tried the 308's (incidentally the 308's weigh as much as the vx and offered next to shag all difference imho)

[siztenboots]

Alcon / AP 295mm (Plans told me they were AP discs but I don't think they are, I think they are Alcon) up front on mine and spacers, RS4-2 Pads all round and braking is great

Alcon have a small moon shape instead of grooves

[Steve B]

Interesting, Plans told me they were AP and they have only 3 grooves. Also no part numbers, when chatting to a friend at AP he said they were not AP as all AP have part numbers on the outer edge and more grooves. I have a new boxed set of AP s in the garage and indeed they are quite different, smaller venting, more grooves and part numbed.

[TOTAL VX]

I have astra gsi 308mm discs on mine,but you need 10mm spacers for the calipers and 10mm longer bolts to hold the caliper to the hub

4 pots are not really required on the vx220, just decent pads like mintex 1144 / 1155 or equivilant

hactually its more than 10mm of spacers Well I had to put more than 10mm of spacer onto mine when I tried the 308's (incidentally the 308's weigh as much as the vx and offered next to shag all difference imho)

So wouldn't recommend going to 308mm's then just a decent set of discs and pads? Groved only or drilled and groved? cracking a poblem?

Cheers

IAN J

[slindborg]

unless the 'drillings' are cast in the disc then I wouldnt touch a drilled disc with a billion foot long barge pole depending on what you are doing with the car, the usual brake recipe works... plain pikey £20 a shot std discs and for pads Mintex 1144/1155/ carbon lorane CL5+ or somethings... depends on your budget etc.

[TOTAL VX]

unless the 'drillings' are cast in the disc then I wouldnt touch a drilled disc with a billion foot long barge pole

depending on what you are doing with the car, the usual brake recipe works... plain pikey £20 a shot std discs and for pads Mintex 1144/1155/ carbon lorane CL5+ or somethings... depends on your budget etc.

The car is running about 250 bhp and on 888's with comps, braided hoses, redstuff but standard discs. I am getting the suspension sorted but brakes are frankly SH1 T on the track, hence want more.

The spacer idea worked for me before and you can get GSI or other 308mm vauxhall performance discs for £80. Some are worried about the spacer format, but elise shop sell them? Any ideas or concerns?


rgds

IAN

[jonnyboy]

Tyres are your limiting factor on brakes. Search for a post by dw1 on this topic. Its something I researched when I was looking into the charger conversion. It can be an expensive folly..... 1155's and solid discs should be ok.

[Steve B]

unless the 'drillings' are cast in the disc then I wouldnt touch a drilled disc with a billion foot long barge pole

depending on what you are doing with the car, the usual brake recipe works... plain pikey £20 a shot std discs and for pads Mintex 1144/1155/ carbon lorane CL5+ or somethings... depends on your budget etc.

The car is running about 250 bhp and on 888's with comps, braided hoses, redstuff but standard discs. I am getting the suspension sorted but brakes are frankly SH1 T on the track, hence want more.

The spacer idea worked for me before and you can get GSI or other 308mm vauxhall performance discs for £80. Some are worried about the spacer format, but elise shop sell them? Any ideas or concerns?


rgds

IAN

I have EP spacers so I can run these :-

http://www.elisepart...ap-brake-discs/

295mm discs, and no concerns in any way. Fantastic brakes with pagids.

[Mangham54]

My firstbthough would be just to change pad compounds, and the majority consensus is that EBC pads are not the best on a lightweight car like the VX or Elise!

[slindborg]

redstuff

there is your problem...

[Pidgeon]

redstuff ........ but brakes are frankly SH1 T

You've answered your own question. There's so much good stuff on here, why you want to plough your own furrow is a mystery to me. Standard discs - good pads SEOT

[Tail slide]

redstuff ........ but brakes are frankly SH1 T

You've answered your own question. There's so much good stuff on here, why you want to plough your own furrow is a mystery to me. Standard discs - good pads SEOT

Ferodo DS2500 also good option along with Mintex, both MUCH better than cheap EBC stuff for the necessary mix of high friction from cold for road use / high heat resistance on track / not much brake dust - which means no squealing either.

Edited by Tail slide, 19 October 2010 - 09:51 PM.

[dw1]

Hi there, as per jonnyboy's post my pain is your gain:
Click here

Update to add I now run cl5+, love them but need to have them with the sticky bond stuff to stop the rattle.

[VIX]

Fcuk me, a thread about brakes. You'd think this would've been covered before!

[NickB787]

Fcuk me, a thread about brakes. You'd think this would've been covered before!

standard size disk CL5+ = great

Edited by NickB777, 22 October 2010 - 05:42 AM.

[SteveA]

standard size disk CL5+ = great

The car is running about 250 bhp and on 888's with comps, braided hoses, redstuff but standard discs.

I have the same setup as you with CL5+ pads and the brakes on track are awesome.