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#1 DarrylB

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 04:34 PM

When I first got my car in April 2008 @ 36,000, I wasn't aware of it having had a chain before I owned it, being an 02 plate I kinda new that it was probably on the cards to be done in the time I owned the car.

Sure enough a few weeks ago I could hear the faint beginnings of the tell tale death rattle - car was now on 56,500k so not too bad. So without a moments hesitation I sent a message straight to Benny on Z22SE, no point beating about the bush aye! If I was gonna get it done, I was gonna get it done properly by someone that could change the chain on a VX, in the dark, with one arm tied behind their back (Well....maybe not...but you get the idea :D ) and you just need to read some of the many, many threads praising Benny's work to see it was a no brainer.

I got a quick response and within a few PM's I was penciled in for a trip to Wolverhampton on the 12th - Nifty! So I took it easy for next 3 weeks, winced and prayed a little every time I pushed the start button (it's my daily drive) and waited for the 12th to arrive...


...and it did.

I'd topped up the screen wash, cleaned the windows, checked the tyres and checked the oil the night before. Woke up about 7, punched in the postcode on the Tom Tom and started the 2 hr trip up the M40. No sooner had I gone past High Wycombe did I get a nice little red oil light pop up on my dash! Grrrrrrrrrrr it was full the night before!! So I pulled over asap and checked the dip stick....dry! :shock: did a visual under the car and in the bay and all was ok, so I whacked in the 250ml that I had left in a bottle in the boot and made it up gingerly up to the next services with the light switching on and off as the oil sloshed about.

A litre of oil later and one in the boot 'just in case' I was back on my way.
It was later deemed that maybe 5w 40 was a bit thin and it was all being burnt.
I finally arrived to find Benny waiting for the garage owner to open up - soon as the car was in and cooled down enough, Benny set straight to work!

As bits were being pulled off it was interesting to see hear his thoughts on my engine, from what he could see it still had an old style chain, but it DID have the bigger squirter. I was just glad to have it all changed for new bits!

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A couple of things that emerged during the change; my aux drive belt tensioner looked like this:
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Benny diagnosed water damage...well to be more precise, water had got in and then frozen. So after a bit of umming and arrring and a some kindly made phone calls, a new part was found.............across the road! hahaha! Benny said "See that building over there.....it's there" So off I trotted. 5mins and £50.50 later I had a new tensioner - phew! just as well too cos when Benny tapped the old one on the floor to push the bolt through, it fell apart!

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We weren't able to change my oil filter either, it's been done up waaaaaay too tight and it wasn't worth the risk of breaking it. So I need to get some sandwich plate seals and go at here.

After a quick break for a tasty sarnie it was a case of putting it all back together, filling her up with oil, turning her over and then firing her up. She fired into life straight away and job was a good'un! Benny also diagnosed a cream crackered exhaust gasket which he said was a common fault.

So with a handshake and grin I was on my home, I could feel that the car was a lot smoother and "free'er".

Here is a quick pic that I took when I got home (we fitted the powder coated rocker cover I had)
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So overall I'm well chuffed and join the long list of people that would immediately recommend Benny's services - actually, I retract my earlier comment at the beggining, I think he COULD actually change a chain in the dark with one arm :clap: Thanks again Benny!

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 05:38 PM

Hi mate how much did he charge u and how long did it take him??

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 06:08 PM

Hiya, It was £400 all in: That's parts + fitting + oil + oil filter change (all genuine OEM parts) He normally charges £350 for Astra/Vectra...etc but due to the awkward nature of the VX he asks for £400 which is understandable. If you want the balancer chain done too that would obviously be more. I had to of course add the cost of a new aux belt tensioner on (£50.50 inc VAT) Had I also had some forethought I would of also replaced the drivers side engine mount - it has to come off anyway, might as well put a new one in! I also changed the spark plugs at the same time - I got there before hand. As for time, he started on the car at about 10.30ish and I drove away at bang on 3pm, in between were a couple of coffee/tea/loo breaks and a sarnie stop, plus getting my diffuser back on was a fun task. So assuming no one eats, drinks, pees and your car is trouble free - then I'd have a guess that it could be a drive in drive out job in roughly 2.5hrs. But then again, I'd rather it take longer and have time taken over it rather than it being a rushed job.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 06:11 PM

Hiya,

It was £400 all in: That's parts + fitting + oil + oil filter change (all genuine OEM parts) He normally charges £350 for Astra/Vectra...etc but due to the awkward nature of the VX he asks for £400 which is understandable.
If you want the balancer chain done too that would obviously be more.

I had to of course add the cost of a new aux belt tensioner on (£50.50 inc VAT) Had I also had some forethought I would of also replaced the drivers side engine mount - it has to come off anyway, might as well put a new one in!
I also changed the spark plugs at the same time - I got there before hand.

As for time, he started on the car at about 10.30ish and I drove away at bang on 3pm, in between were a couple of coffee/tea/loo breaks and a sarnie stop, plus getting my diffuser back on was a fun task.

So assuming no one eats, drinks, pees and your car is trouble free - then I'd have a guess that it could be a drive in drive out job in roughly 2.5hrs. But then again, I'd rather it take longer and have time taken over it rather than it being a rushed job.


can u send me his email please mate thanks gav

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 06:16 PM







chinky chinky vocky did mine last years and on 65000 miles it was time to do it and the same my belt tensioner was :flame: he got me one for £30.00 :P

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 06:19 PM

Thanks I would also be interested in his contact details Not too far away for me

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 07:11 PM

chinky chinky vocky did mine last years and on 65000 miles it was time to do it and the same my belt tensioner was :flame: he got me one for £30.00 :P


LOL there's always one and it's always you Fab! hahaha. I didn't really care, I was just glad I was able to get one a) on such short notice and B) literally 50 steps away across the road. It even turned out to be an OEM part!

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 07:12 PM

Oh and I've just txt Benny asking if he's happy for me to pass on his number via PM. Alternatively you could join www.z22se.co.uk and send him a PM direct, he's quick to respond :)

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 09:22 PM

Sounds a reasonable price, I paid £200 for parts (both chains) and spent two full weekends doing mine myself. Fortunately I like doing the odd job on the car but for the amount of hours I wasted thats a good deal. 2.1/2 hours Imnotworthy took me two hours to remove the first big nut on the pulley.

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:17 AM

You "burnt" 1.25 litres of oil in 100 miles? :o Even with my totally fcuked engine that looked more like a diesel it didn't get through oil at that rate on the road. :wacko:

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:27 AM

"Sure enough a few weeks ago I could hear the faint beginnings of the tell tale death rattle" thanks for putting the shits up me! what does this sound like? outside the car mine sounds fine but inside i could say it has a tinkering sort of noise?

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:33 AM

A metallic rattle Though not always the chain that makes that noise - can also be the hydraulic lifters or a cracked exhaust manifold (the lifters aren't that loud, and the exhaust knuckle tends to utter down when warm)

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:42 AM

A metallic rattle

Though not always the chain that makes that noise - can also be the hydraulic lifters or a cracked exhaust manifold (the lifters aren't that loud, and the exhaust knuckle tends to utter down when warm)


phew, it don't do it when the engine has warmed thumbsup

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:52 AM

Good excuse to fit a tubular manifold then :) (just seen all the spelling [or entire word] mistakes in my first reply :rolleyes:)

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:59 AM


LOL there's always one and it's always you Fab! hahaha. I didn't really care, I was just glad I was able to get one a) on such short notice and B) literally 50 steps away across the road. It even turned out to be an OEM part!

:lol: mine as well ,vocky as plenty spare hidden in his **** :D
oh well like you it is done and dusted
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 09:19 AM

Does anyone have the part number for the belt tensioner? chinky chinky

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 09:51 AM

a cracked exhaust manifold (the lifters aren't that loud, and the exhaust knuckle tends to utter down when warm)


Thats exactly the noise I have now - dissapears within 15 seconds of starting

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 09:54 AM

You "burnt" 1.25 litres of oil in 100 miles? :o

Even with my totally fcuked engine that looked more like a diesel it didn't get through oil at that rate on the road. :wacko:


Na, I think it was guess on the dipstick. When Benny empited it a fair amount came out. strange thing is iwas not getting any blue smoke?

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 10:09 AM

Anyone around the South Wales / South West area that can do timing chains?

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 10:14 AM

Dipstick mark to mark is 1L so not sure how you managed to measure 1.25? Do you mean 1.25 marks on the stick? I which case that would be 250ml....




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