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[nicollow]

So I dropped my vxt off at MMG this morning with the sinking feeling that the clutch is slipping. Liam mentioned the two options as the paddle one and the organic one. What are the plusses/minuses of the two? Are there any other options? It'll be only car in a few weeks so will spend the majority of the time in and around town/b-roads... Any info or recommendations welcome. Ta

[iVXT]

Having had a paddle clutch (not on my vxt though) I'd say it was great when not an everyday car but could be a little too on/off especially if used in traffic regularly. I'd have to think long & hard if I'd choose a paddle again even for fast road & some track use. If mainly track use I wouldn't hesitate though. Be interested what other people think though if they've had one on a vxt. Cheers.

[jbudgie]

Got a paddle on my stage 4 tubby. Once you get used to it then its fine. I dont even notice it now. Think there is another thread running on the same topic somewhere.

[zx9rjason]

Having had a paddle clutch (not on my vxt though) I'd say it was great when not an everyday car but could be a little too on/off especially if used in traffic regularly.

I'd have to think long & hard if I'd choose a paddle again even for fast road & some track use. If mainly track use I wouldn't hesitate though.

Be interested what other people think though if they've had one on a vxt.

Cheers.

I have a paddle clutch and have no problems with it at all. It is very on or off but I find it makes you plan your driving better especially at junctions. My car is a only a second car for sunny days so its fine. Not sure I would want one for everyday use if it involved a lot of traffic or hill starts!

[jimbob]

Don't know which variety is fitted to my stage 4...feels quite heavy and easier to stall at junctions in comparison to a standard shed.. how can you tell?

[jbudgie]

I think if you have a stage 4 then it will probably be a paddle. Sounds like it from your description anyway.

[siztenboots]

I run the helix group N on mine, http://www.performan...2006/409616.htm

[jameso]

I have a sachs paddle, it is a bit of a pain in traffic but you do get used to it. Other thing to bear in mind is ur clutch will no longer be the weakest bit in ur transmission, riding it will now eat ur flywheel

[turboluca]

Don't know which variety is fitted to my stage 4...feels quite heavy and easier to stall at junctions in comparison to a standard shed..
how can you tell?

same as you mate ..hoe do you tell

[vxr36]

I've tried standard, Sachs and helix now. I am currently on helix and was sceptical with 330BHP and even more torque. However it is great. I liked the Sachs but as I use the car every day I probably wouldn't go back to it as it was a bit more effort in traffic. Andrew

[SteveA]

I'm also having the same choice at the moment and am probably going to go organic. I figure if I decide to sell the car a paddle clutch would definately put some people off.

[G-Bob]

...but could be a little too on/off especially if used in traffic regularly.

Nicol only has a couple of driving styles anyway, 1. No power,2. full power,3. lighting up the wheels while driving sideways.

[iVXT]

I've tried standard, Sachs and helix now. I am currently on helix and was sceptical with 330BHP and even more torque. However it is great. I liked the Sachs but as I use the car every day I probably wouldn't go back to it as it was a bit more effort in traffic.
Andrew

When you say your running the Helix do you mean the heavy duty organic?

http://www.performan...2006/409626.htm

Cheers.

[vxr36]

I've tried standard, Sachs and helix now. I am currently on helix and was sceptical with 330BHP and even more torque. However it is great. I liked the Sachs but as I use the car every day I probably wouldn't go back to it as it was a bit more effort in traffic.
Andrew

When you say your running the Helix do you mean the heavy duty organic?

http://www.performan...2006/409626.htm

Cheers.

Yes. Fitted by Plans

[iVXT]

I've tried standard, Sachs and helix now. I am currently on helix and was sceptical with 330BHP and even more torque. However it is great. I liked the Sachs but as I use the car every day I probably wouldn't go back to it as it was a bit more effort in traffic.
Andrew

When you say your running the Helix do you mean the heavy duty organic?

http://www.performan...2006/409626.htm

Cheers.

Yes. Fitted by Plans

Sounds like a good option then if it can handle that power ok.

Cheers.

[nicollow]

Thanks for the update chaps, muchos helpful. Think I like the sound of that organic one... Ive heard that they can be slippy at high power though. To confirm, your running one with 330 brake? Is that with the uprated high clamp force cover plate?

[Duncan VXR]

The helix 6 leg paddel clutch is a pussy cat and more than fine even for your nan to drive - just adjust your driving style to take into account it is a paddle and will last fine and not slip Would not even consider an organic tbh, they dont recover from extreme heat / slip and tend to be heavier on the pedal than the paddle which I find more work in trafic Also there is not difference in cost I also find the sacs 4 paddle fine as was the 4 paddle helix on my old one and love them all True a paddle will eat your fly more but not so much that you will loose sleep, mine got REAGULAR abuse from road commute to track to drag strip and when removed was fine DG

[nicollow]

The helix 6 leg paddel clutch is a pussy cat and more than fine even for your nan to drive - just adjust your driving style to take into account it is a paddle and will last fine and not slip

Would not even consider an organic tbh, they dont recover from extreme heat / slip and tend to be heavier on the pedal than the paddle which I find more work in trafic

Also there is not difference in cost

I also find the sacs 4 paddle fine as was the 4 paddle helix on my old one and love them all

True a paddle will eat your fly more but not so much that you will loose sleep, mine got REAGULAR abuse from road commute to track to drag strip and when removed was fine

DG

Thanks Duncan

I recon youre the man when it comes to knowing what can take a bit of abuse. Is there much difference between a 4 or 6 arm paddle? Should I just get the 6 and be done with it? Should I get the uprated cover and release bearing while Im at it too? Thanks again

[Duncan VXR]

The 6 I find is a bit more half way between the organic and 4 paddle and would recommend that for road / track use The cover is uprated on the paddle options and the uprated organic options - the difference between what CS spec as road and comp spec organic ones is a std clutch plate and uprated cover for road version and the comp spec is uprated cover and plate - Helix only offer 1 uprated version for organic which is the CS comp spec I have drove quite a few vx's with the 6 paddle inc Zacs the other weekend and I think most would not notice tbh - its more you dont want to be slipping the clutch (holding it on a hil with the clutch biting point etc) you can actually drive it like this but thats what casues excessive wear Liam has had his fair share of different options through the door but would bet a small wager he would not go for organic on his own 4 paddle feels a bit more agressive in terms of smaller bitting point - if in doubt side step the clutch lol Hope this helps DG

[G-Bob]

4 paddle feels a bit more agressive in terms of smaller bitting point - if in doubt side step the clutch lol

That's how Nicol drives! Biting points stop the wheels from spinning!