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#1 Steffe

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 06:16 AM

...release cant be far away now!!! http://www.obdtuner.com/ Do anyone know what the price will be?

Edited by Steffe, 20 June 2011 - 06:19 AM.


#2 techieboy

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 07:11 AM

Given up waiting for it. :(

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 08:33 AM

News
2011/05/05
A lot of work is being done to make the software commercially available. We are in the midst of talks with a reseller who can distribute in the UK and mainland Europe. As we want to make sure the distribution process will be as flawless as possible, it is going to take some time to set up. We will update the site as soon as there is more information


That is good news thumbsup

He's working on the SC version also, let's see if he can iron out the little quirks from the courtenay map chinky chinky

Edited by smiley, 20 June 2011 - 08:41 AM.


#4 Steffe

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 09:19 AM

What do you think this will cost? Reading from the instruction manual, it would be possible to tune the engine by myself. Don't know if its that simple in practice though.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 09:39 AM

Once the ecu has been flashed with his firmware, it becomes sort of an emerald. The part you can control is in the client side software, which you get with the product. That enables you to change all you see in the pdf you can download from the site. I have been running it for a year, before i went SC. Pretty cool, but to be honest i did not play with the software, as i made no hardware changes after i got the ecu flashed with it, and the car responded just fine with the intial settings the creator put in there.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 10:03 AM

This has got to be good news. Might spur courtneys into thinking about having some kind of authorised dealers. If this delivers what they are saying that's got to be a big chunk of their business gone in an instant.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 11:38 AM

This has got to be good news. Might spur courtneys into thinking about having some kind of authorised dealers. If this delivers what they are saying that's got to be a big chunk of their business gone in an instant.



Yep... Especially for those that find Norfolk too much of a commute to be viable/worthwhile.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 12:57 PM

Don't hold your breaths guys but when(if) it comes out then it will be a very good day for NA drivers (also yet to see a dyno readout that isn't calculated by the ecu)

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 01:11 PM

This has got to be good news. Might spur courtneys into thinking about having some kind of authorised dealers. If this delivers what they are saying that's got to be a big chunk of their business gone in an instant.

Given their reliance on the availability of Klasen to actually do the map adjustments, I can't see them ever franchising it. Personally, I hope they never do that either, as I'd rather they didn't dilute their reputation. Making the schlep over there is part of the fun and I even go their for a service, despite effectively servicing my car three times a year, myself.

(also yet to see a dyno readout that isn't calculated by the ecu)

Yep, I think I read Peter had to adjust the "dyno" calculation, as it was somewhat over optimistic. :lol:

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 01:35 PM

(also yet to see a dyno readout that isn't calculated by the ecu)


Here's mine from last year done on a MAHA dyno.
It later turned out that i had knock (no idea if the sensor took action during the measuring), and that my air box was filthy as hell :(

At that time i was running a 2.4 inlet, 70mm airtube, stock exhaust manifold, 200 cells 2" cat and a janspeed backbox.
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Our conclusion from some testing of various speedsters, and the results booked by some of the UK guys was:
(feel free to correct, where i drew wrong conclusions)
- Add a 2.4 inlet and decent airpipe and you get about 10bhp (isch) (shifted up the torque range)
- Get it mapped by TMS/CMS, and it should bring you to 165 (isch)
- Get a decent 2.5" exhaust, and it should bring you to 170 (isch)

After the dutch mapping, a rough conclusions was:
- 2.4 + airpipe + 2" + mapping = 175 (isch)
- 2.4 + airpipe + 2.5" + mapping = 185 (isch)

The mith of the dutch 200 was busted after some dyno runs.
185 was the most achievable, without opening the engine.

Edited by smiley, 20 June 2011 - 01:36 PM.


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Posted 20 June 2011 - 03:59 PM

Of course, 200 was totally impossible without cams Still... 185 with just boltons is very good Add some stage 1 cams and a better exhaust manifold and your 200's are here !

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 04:02 PM

Hmmm Strange how the itbs with exhaust don't get them results...

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 04:04 PM

Add some stage 1 cams and a better exhaust manifold and your 200's are here !


The 185's had a full 2.5" tullet, incl the manifold.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 04:05 PM

Hmmm
Strange how the itbs with exhaust don't get those results...


Sorry Joe, makes more sense now.

Breaking the DAMOS file on the Z22SE surely is a good thing as we can map the SC cars better or have I missed something?

Much rather keep the Z22 ECU than have to go stand alone or Z20LET.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 04:06 PM

Definitely is a good thing cliffie just this has been said for many many years now...

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 05:54 PM


Add some stage 1 cams and a better exhaust manifold and your 200's are here !


The 185's had a full 2.5" tullet, incl the manifold.



Which is still a (way better than stock but) bad manifold thumbsup

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 06:24 PM

Breaking the DAMOS file on the Z22SE surely is a good thing as we can map the SC cars better or have I missed something?

the DAMOS file is still pretty much locked solid, this is totally new software which wipes the GM stuff away

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 06:33 PM

Alanoo, you say the Tullet manifold is bad, which should I be looking for a good manifold? Thanks

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 06:39 PM

Make ya own 4-2-1 manifold

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 06:42 PM



Add some stage 1 cams and a better exhaust manifold and your 200's are here !


The 185's had a full 2.5" tullet, incl the manifold.



Which is still a (way better than stock but) bad manifold thumbsup


My car (previously owned on here, and modded by someone else) has a full 2.5" Tullet zorst, 2.4 manifold, CAI kit, uprated fuel pump and CMS remap, and made ~165hp / 160lb/ft. So perhaps 185hp is slightly optimistic (or my car could have been mapped better..)

On the ability to tweak the 2.2 ECU outside CMS, this would be a major one for me trying to get there from Aberdeen. In fact toting it up, the cost of the pre-map, full mapping, fuel and associated costs, not to mention ~20 hours driving, puts the cost of things into cheap stan Dalone territory, although I appreiciate I'm a farily extreme case in the UK




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