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[techieboy]

I'd love to go down that route. Just can't get any sense from anyone about what if anything can be done with the B207 transplanted into the VX. Every question I've asked falls on deaf ears. If you can fathom out whether Trionic7suite or Trionic8suite will support a B207 engine, 60-2 crank trigger, individual coil packs, drive-by-wire, the existing STACK dash, no CAN, immobiliser/no immobiliser, etc, I'm game to give it a go. Or I'm game to let you come and calibrate it for me. I'm certainly not bothered about boost control, was more interested to know why everyone I spoke to was making a big deal about it.

[Exmantaa]

We got here 2 full Trionic 8 ecu's & looms, but from what I read everywhere T8 is (still) a bitch to tune compared to T7 ot T5. (You want to use them for a research project ?) Therefore the LSJ ecu on the B207 engine. Direct plug & play, as a B207 is exactly the same longblock as the US LSJ engine. Everything works directly, with the supercharger parts, except 2 things I still need to investigate further; the Stack ECT readout needs a PWM signal to work and the Vehicle Speed signal for the ecu is taken directly from an ABS sensor but now plays havoc with the ABS/odometer. No time yet to work on solutions for this and really should update my topic. But PM me if you're interested in something similar.

Edited by Exmantaa, 19 January 2012 - 06:11 PM.

[slindborg]

I'd love to go down that route. Just can't get any sense from anyone about what if anything can be done with the B207 transplanted into the VX. Every question I've asked falls on deaf ears. If you can fathom out whether Trionic7suite or Trionic8suite will support a B207 engine, 60-2 crank trigger, individual coil packs, drive-by-wire, the existing STACK dash, no CAN, immobiliser/no immobiliser, etc, I'm game to give it a go. Or I'm game to let you come and calibrate it for me.

I'm certainly not bothered about boost control, was more interested to know why everyone I spoke to was making a big deal about it.

It's a big deal to exhaust driven compressors as control of that has been somewhat sh** outside of oem circles for ever... Hence all ecu makers having a song and dance about it.

When I get some of that magical thing called time, ill look into t7/8 more

[slindborg]

We got here 2 full Trionic 8 ecu's & looms, but from what I read everywhere T8 is (still) a bitch to tune compared to T7 ot T5.
(You want to use them for a research project ?)

Therefore the LSJ ecu on the B207 engine. Direct plug & play, as a B207 is exactly the same longblock as the US LSJ engine. Everything works directly, with the supercharger parts, except 2 things I still need to investigate further; the Stack ECT readout needs a PWM signal to work and the Vehicle Speed signal for the ecu is taken directly from an ABS sensor but now plays havoc with the ABS/odometer. No time yet to work on solutions for this and really should update my topic. But PM me if you're interested in something similar.

Those two things are easy to get round with a couple of circuits.

[techieboy]

Eugggghhhhh. I've just spent an hour and a half reading the Trionic 8 Suite manual. Seems like half the manual focusses on turbo related settings, controls and sizing. Not sure it's really set up for controlling a non-turbo engine. Think the search for an LSJ ECU (and loom?) might have to start. At least Exmantaa has done most of the hard work there and I'd have a starting point for a base map, assuming he'll let me copy it of course.

[Exmantaa]

Better PM me then for some details about your power goals. (We're getting seriously off topic here, but speaking of boost control; I was just reading if the LSJ's traction control could be of any use in the VX... )

Edited by Exmantaa, 19 January 2012 - 08:35 PM.