33 replies to this topic

[mbes2]

Ive now got LSD fitted on mine and not noticed any difference on the road so far, can't go as quick on normal roads 

 

Will report back once im back on track with the vx

[turboluca]

Iv had it on my last turbo stage 4 an didn't notice a great difference at all . The thing that's was a must was racelogic traction control .

Edited by turboluca, 29 April 2015 - 10:15 AM.

[Duncan VXR]

I know GeorgeBC was not happy at all with his setup.

On the oem setup Steve? He is happy with the standalone as far as I know and knowing George he would call it out if there was an issue DG

[siztenboots]

 

I know GeorgeBC was not happy at all with his setup.

On the oem setup Steve? He is happy with the standalone as far as I know and knowing George he would call it out if there was an issue DG

 

 

we both know its on the standalone

[Duncan VXR]

Maybe I never read the full thread as it was discussing power delivery above 300. On oem management it is an issue hence my question around been happy with the oem setup DG

[hairy]

Have a read of Nev's thread - depends how much adrenaline you like!

[Thealastair34]

high power is fine if the delivery of it is good

 

stock ecu forget it, its really bad at stage 4 level

 

aftermarket im sure its fine,

 

i dont have a turbo vx but i do have a rwd car that has 600bhp per ton and runs 205 width rear tyres that grips fine in 2nd onwards on a road tyre 

[jonnyboy]

 

sorry for he thread hijack.. :-)

I have an NA with a little over 170 bhp - is an LSD really worth having ? (happy with my power level and done suspension but if theres more to be had with an LSD then I'd like to know more) - what improvement will it give ? (for fast road use that is...) 

 

 

Not worth having for road use IMO. Much more likely to see you swapping ends in a mid engined RWD car.

 

Driving with an LSD is different and you have to get used to it.

 

 

Nope totally the opposite

 

When you get a break of traction in an Elise/VX it can be pretty sudden and takes luck rather than talent to catch it. Admittedly in the dry at least the S2 Chassis has very high limits that dont require an LSD to contain them but when you broach that limit the LSD smooths the breakaway and bleeds in and out the oversteer rather than snapping. In the wet the LSD makes a huge difference making management ot of oversteer not just safer but a lot more fun more importantly. My humble 170 BHP Elise is a complete riot in the wet with the LSD any T1R tyres,  The slight trade off is that you get the smallest hint of understeer out of slow corners (usually dealt with by keeping the boot in and waiting for the oversteer ) 

 

Having had a car with an LSD I will never have one again without put it that way. 

[The Knobs]

 

 

sorry for he thread hijack.. :-)

I have an NA with a little over 170 bhp - is an LSD really worth having ? (happy with my power level and done suspension but if theres more to be had with an LSD then I'd like to know more) - what improvement will it give ? (for fast road use that is...) 

 

 

Not worth having for road use IMO. Much more likely to see you swapping ends in a mid engined RWD car.

 

Driving with an LSD is different and you have to get used to it.

 

 

Nope totally the opposite

 

When you get a break of traction in an Elise/VX it can be pretty sudden and takes luck rather than talent to catch it. Admittedly in the dry at least the S2 Chassis has very high limits that dont require an LSD to contain them but when you broach that limit the LSD smooths the breakaway and bleeds in and out the oversteer rather than snapping. In the wet the LSD makes a huge difference making management ot of oversteer not just safer but a lot more fun more importantly. My humble 170 BHP Elise is a complete riot in the wet with the LSD any T1R tyres,  The slight trade off is that you get the smallest hint of understeer out of slow corners (usually dealt with by keeping the boot in and waiting for the oversteer ) 

 

Having had a car with an LSD I will never have one again without put it that way. 

 

 

How can that be unless you are aiming for oversteer? Inside wheel spinning on loss of traction is way safer than both wheels when driving normally.  

[Thealastair34]

non lsd is safer for sure, but gets boring spinning one wheel waiting for some grip 

[SteveA]

I also have an LSD on mine and for track work it is excellent but the back end goes out much earlier than a non LSD car if provoked. If you are intentionally yawing the car then LSD's are great due to the control but quite frankly if you are doing that on the road you are asking for trouble.

 

Unless you is a drift king, ya get me, brap brap!

Edited by SteveA, 29 April 2015 - 11:00 PM.

[jonnyboy]

If you know how to deal with oversteer it's far better. If you panic when back end goes or fit sticky tyres for lots of grip there's no point. I know which is more fun and requires more skill

[siztenboots]

Road tyres are more fun on track , and teach you the importance of technical driving. Okay so you are not the fastest , but four wheel drifts are fun.

 

If people want less torque with their stage 4 map , then just say so, you can still keep the 300bhp pub talk figures.

[SteveA]

I know which is more fun and requires more skill

 

I would argue that a mechanical device fitted to the car that limits slip removes some of the skill required to drive it quickly. Mbes2 put it best;

 

Ive now got LSD fitted on mine and not noticed any difference on the road so far, can't go as quick on normal roads

 

So in summation for the OP, 5 people say stick with an open diff and one person says get an LSD.

Edited by SteveA, 30 April 2015 - 09:32 AM.