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[oz2044]

By any chance is it your C4 on Pistonheads with VX220 listed as P/X? I considered getting in touch as I do have a soft spot for 911's. As for Turbo vs. NA - for me at the time was partly budget driven, a good NA is several thousands cheaper than a good Turbo. Supercharging the NA is quite easy and is very common, so could be an option if you wanted to spend less up front but wanted more power later.

it is the 911 c4 you've spotted

[oz2044]

Welcome to the forum. Where are you based? See someone has mentioned Derbyshire but not sure how they've found that. I currently have 2 VX Turbo's in Derby you're welcome to come and have a snoop at/pax ride. One is completely standard and currently for sale and the other is a Stage 2. I've been an owner for about 4 years and could give you a few pointers when buying if you like.

yes I'm just in Wingerworth Chesterfield. thanks...

[Ali87]

I love the n/a it's a hoot and you can have your foot flat down the majority of the time without getting in too much bother. Not to say wouldn't have been tempted by a turbo if it was in budget...

[gaffer1986]

If you're worried about repair bills, some bits are cheap some bits are extortionate. Head lights are nearly a £800 each, rear lights are around £500 each (if you can find them), body parts are very expensive. However the mechanical parts are reasonably price. Having said that I spent £200 on two toe links which I though was expensive. If you get an NA, getting the cam chain replaced is very very important.

[jonnyboy]

Rear lights are under £300 and usually in stock with opel. Cam chains need replacing when(if) they rattle and not before. There's an odd one or two things that just get regurgitated on here that aren't necessarily things to be too concerned about. Coming from a Porker with an engine literally made from German cheese you have nothing to worry about with the vx.

[vocky]

This year I have seen four engine failures due to old and worn out chains, do not ignore Vauxhalls own advice - they should be replaced at 100,000 miles or ten years, whichever comes first. ALL z22se engines are now over ten years old, ignore the manufacturers advice at your own peril.

 

You would not leave a cambelt change because it runs okay now would you !

Edited by vocky, 19 October 2015 - 07:41 AM.

[jonnyboy]

They never go without any warning though do they? 

 

I had a guy bring me a car down to "have a listen to" the chain was so bad I advised getting the AA to take it 3 miles home! That had been driven round for a while like that as well. Very luck to have caught it. 

 

My VX starts and sounds as smooth as silk. 2001 with too few miles on the clock. No chain rattle when sat for 3 weeks without moving. Its certainly something to be aware of and monitor but as for rushing out and panic changing I'm not so sure. Theres a big difference between a chain and a rubber belt. 

[vocky]

I do agree with you about listening for the cold start death rattle, but owners should be aware that if funds allow the chains should be changed and you do not always get the death rattle.

 

MartinS had the worst chain I have ever seen (by a country mile !) and he said it sounded fine, I begged to differ when I heard it start from cold

[denno]

You will find either an n/a or turbo far cheaper to run than a 911, until you start modifying, then you need a blank cheque book as it becomes a serious addiction !

[gaffer1986]

Rear lights are under £300 and usually in stock with opel. Cam chains need replacing when(if) they rattle and not before. There's an odd one or two things that just get regurgitated on here that aren't necessarily things to be too concerned about. Coming from a Porker with an engine literally made from German cheese you have nothing to worry about with the vx.

 

Sorry, I heard the rear lights were £500.

 

I totally disagree with you regarding cam chains, mine was very loose with no significant rattle on start up. I've also seen one snap. Very glad I had it replaced. After seeing the cam chain I would never advise against having it replaced.

Edited by gaffer1986, 19 October 2015 - 06:40 PM.

[scw02102]

simple

 

both are good

 

if you want a slow one buy the na

fast one, buy the turbo or na supercharged

[4cTech]

Most if not all cam chains that break show signs before they get so bad it becomes an interference engine ,just the owners choose to ignore or don't know what they are hearing in my experience with the Alfa 2.2

[Rosssco]

Also, the 2.2 was always meant to be supercharged so it should be reliable. The 2.0 turbo was because they didn't get the supercharger ready in time.

 

No that was the 2.0 LSJ Engine (effectively the basic B207 engine some install). The 2.2 is reliable enough with the SC installed to a certain power level and if appropriately maintained.

 

I also think fitting the 2.0 LSJ engine from factory would have made the more Exige S look expensive and lacking in grunt, so perhaps a bit of markey strategy from Lotus..

[oakmere]

It was the 2.0l turbo that should never have been. The LSJ engine was the original plan not sure why the change was made? Many have now done it now anyway.

[vocky]

they were a year behind on the LSJ engine and Vauxhall wanted an improved perfromance vx220 ASAP, so they threw the z20let in instead

[gaffer1986]

Wasn't the supercharger made for the z22se from factory?

[Rosssco]

Nope. Similar engine from the same family though:

 

https://www.verboom....upercharged.pdf

 

We steal their SC systems...