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[Bargi]

What Nitrons do  you have 40 or 46's

i was going to ask the same

[Captain Vimes]

For me, it added understeer which improved stability. Didn’t really notice it increasing rear grip but it definitely changed the balance.

Here’s a vid at Snett comparing with and without. I think the rest of the setup was pretty much the same.

https://youtu.be/YADpApZLZVg

I ended up going back to standard ARB and slightly stiffer front springs (still wasn’t happy with the setup though).

Edited by Captain Vimes, 21 October 2018 - 10:07 PM.

[Aerodynamic]

I think conclusion is.
A stiffer ARB is going to help you none to a little.
A LSD is going to help you little to a lot.
And a traction control will help a lot.

If it is to prevent spinning rear wheels.

Br, Per

[Ivor]

I think conclusion is.
A stiffer ARB is going to help you none to a little.
A LSD is going to help you little to a lot.
And a traction control will help a lot.

If it is to prevent spinning rear wheels.

Br, Per

10 of us had the variable rate racelogic TCS fitted at the weekend... definitely works in a straight line, trying it on track at llandow Thursday

[chris_uk]

Softening up the rear a click or two may help on corner exit traction, but into and during a corner it may make it start to slide as it will overwhelm the damping, you really need to test and see where the balance is on the rear first then alter the front to suit.

Thats what i would start with anyway.

[Firthy]

Yeah as a above my Hoffmans 1 way dampers work best at 16-17 clicks from hard.

 

This is a very different working range to most standard Nitron valving.

[Firthy]

If I run them any stiffer the car doesn't generate grip....

[hughcam]

I run 2015 spec hoffman 40's. Damp 13- 15 clicks form soft on the front 15 clicks form soft rear. 

 

A 1 min clip pre front damping increase at Curbs:

 

https://youtu.be/MuL5bPw4VkI

 

post tweek:

 

https://youtu.be/gbe3j0TbriY 

 

You can see how much more stable the car is post tweek ( I also smoothed up my driving a bit). My thinking is that keeping the car flatter through anti roll increase instead of upping the damping is better as it leaves the dampers to be more supple in the braking phase..

 

I guess the best way is to give it a go!

[hughcam]

For me, it added understeer which improved stability. Didn’t really notice it increasing rear grip but it definitely changed the balance.

Here’s a vid at Snett comparing with and without. I think the rest of the setup was pretty much the same.

https://youtu.be/YADpApZLZVg

I ended up going back to standard ARB and slightly stiffer front springs (still wasn’t happy with the setup though).

 

Thanks for that! I watched this vid last night and it looks like the car was much more consistent if not as fun. 

 

Did you go quicker with the ARB?

[Rosssco]

My thinking is that keeping the car flatter through anti roll increase instead of upping the damping is better as it leaves the dampers to be more supple in the braking phase..

 
That's the general philosophy behind the Cornering Force ARB's - use stiffer front and additional rear ARB's to allow the spring rates and damping to be backed off.

 

It works well on the road, but I've never tried it on track.

[Aerodynamic]

Works in a straight line? could you explaine?

Let me know how it worked on track. with or without LSD?

 

Br, Per

 

 

 

I think conclusion is.
A stiffer ARB is going to help you none to a little.
A LSD is going to help you little to a lot.
And a traction control will help a lot.

If it is to prevent spinning rear wheels.

Br, Per

10 of us had the variable rate racelogic TCS fitted at the weekend... definitely works in a straight line, trying it on track at llandow Thursday

 

 

[Captain Vimes]

For me, it added understeer which improved stability. Didn’t really notice it increasing rear grip but it definitely changed the balance.

Here’s a vid at Snett comparing with and without. I think the rest of the setup was pretty much the same.

https://youtu.be/YADpApZLZVg

I ended up going back to standard ARB and slightly stiffer front springs (still wasn’t happy with the setup though).

Thanks for that! I watched this vid last night and it looks like the car was much more consistent if not as fun.

Did you go quicker with the ARB?

No. With passenger the lap time was pretty much identical.

To be fair the whole setup needs to be matched though. I had 350/450 lb springs and I suspect the 1”ARB was doing weird things when combined with relatively soft main springs.

What do the lotus cup and Elise trophy boys run in terms of dampers/ARB/Geo? After years of trial and error I suspect they’ve got a good feel for the fastest setup so I’d probably start there. Then spend time learning the setup and don’t change anything until you’re within a second of their lap times (assuming power/weight are ball park similar).

[Bargi]

Where's Scuffers when you need him 😂

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[hughcam]

 

 

For me, it added understeer which improved stability. Didn’t really notice it increasing rear grip but it definitely changed the balance.

Here’s a vid at Snett comparing with and without. I think the rest of the setup was pretty much the same.

https://youtu.be/YADpApZLZVg

I ended up going back to standard ARB and slightly stiffer front springs (still wasn’t happy with the setup though).

Thanks for that! I watched this vid last night and it looks like the car was much more consistent if not as fun.

Did you go quicker with the ARB?

No. With passenger the lap time was pretty much identical.

To be fair the whole setup needs to be matched though. I had 350/450 lb springs and I suspect the 1”ARB was doing weird things when combined with relatively soft main springs.

What do the lotus cup and Elise trophy boys run in terms of dampers/ARB/Geo? After years of trial and error I suspect they’ve got a good feel for the fastest setup so I’d probably start there. Then spend time learning the setup and don’t change anything until you’re within a second of their lap times (assuming power/weight are ball park similar).

 

 

I am trying to find the Elise Trophy times which is proving to be a bit hard... 

 

I think the majority run a front 1 inch ARB but slightly stiffer spring rates so I am going to give it a go. 

[Captain Vimes]

https://www.tsl-timi.../search?q=Lotus

Keep an eye on the weather at the bottom left of the page ie. it looks like it was snowing in March 18 at Snett...

[Zoobeef]

Snett 300 last year for elise trophy was a 2:09.0

[hughcam]

Snett 300 last year for elise trophy was a 2:09.0

Much quicker than me, I was 2.16 on a sprint with cold tyres. Might be a couple seconds quicker on a flying lap.