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#1 ICD

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 12:16 PM

As in Title

 

Plastic shitbox  (NA standard) , starts first time, you drive it 1 mile down the road to shops and stop engine.

 

Come out of shops and it doesnt start, but turns over, fuel pump does it noisy thing but no spark.

 

Walk home, have a cup of coffee, go back about 1 hour later, and starts on first turn.

 

Its been doing this on and off for about 2 months..(not every time)

 

Longer journey say 5 miles up...no problems whatsoever

 

In what order should we looking at

1. Fuel Pump

2. Flooding of engine

3. Damp somewhere

4. Wiring

5. Fuel

6. another

 

Thanks for looking



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Posted 20 June 2019 - 12:46 PM

something temperature related.  my guess would be after that length of journey it sits right between the cold map and the warm map and is trying to start with no choke as it thinks it's too warm, but in reality it's too cold.

 

Best fix is to drive it decent distances, if you needed a shopping trolley you could have bought a Corsa :lol:



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Posted 20 June 2019 - 01:01 PM

As in Title

Plastic shitbox (NA standard) , starts first time, you drive it 1 mile down the road to shops and stop engine.

Come out of shops and it doesnt start, but turns over, fuel pump does it noisy thing but no spark.

Walk home, have a cup of coffee, go back about 1 hour later, and starts on first turn.

Its been doing this on and off for about 2 months..(not every time)


Longer journey say 5 miles up...no problems whatsoever

In what order should we looking at
1. Fuel Pump
2. Flooding of engine
3. Damp somewhere
4. Wiring
5. Fuel
6. another

Thanks for looking



A faulty crank sensor can sometimes cause these symptoms.

#4 Ivor

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:49 PM

I had a Toyota that did this, it was the ignition module, suspect component breaking down inside, it would always start when cold and when warm would run and run, when warming up it would randomly cut out and refuse to start

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 08:06 PM

brown or grey relay in the boot

 

or engine temperature sensor

 

or coilpack



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Posted 20 June 2019 - 08:55 PM

brown or grey relay in the boot

 

or engine temperature sensor

 

or coilpack

 

..sounds a bit like the antique road show

 

..cheap...more expensive... or get another mortgage

 

Thank you...



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Posted 21 June 2019 - 08:20 AM

Has it still got the EGR valve fitted?



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Posted 21 June 2019 - 02:28 PM

there might be someone close by to swap out the coil pack to eliminate that, so would be a good idea to put your rough location in your postings.



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Posted 21 June 2019 - 09:59 PM

there might be someone close by to swap out the coil pack to eliminate that, so would be a good idea to put your rough location in your postings.

 

..thankyou..its going to be left withn MBR for a few days to try and replicate the problem  and do as you suggested , not only coil but the others that Vocky suggested

 

I'll post up the solution once investigated....its a funny one as it doesnt always do it, only when youre in a hurry
 



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Posted 22 June 2019 - 07:23 AM

Have these got cam and crank position sensors
Had the exact same with my wife’s old Alfa 156 that used to go through one a year

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Posted 22 June 2019 - 07:47 AM

it could also be a faulty MAP sensor or throttle body



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Posted 22 June 2019 - 09:57 AM

Have these got cam and crank position sensors
 

 

Crank sensor, yes.

 

Cam sensor is 'virtual' on the 2.2 in that the ignition module on the engine determines the position of the engine by compression-sense and then outputs a 'cam sensor' signal once it has determined this.

 

https://www.speedste...entatie/csi.pdf

 

So a coil pack module that starts to go bad on the 2.2 tends to show similar effects like cam sensor failure on other cars as it loses the ability to reliably generate a cam signal.

 

Bye, Arno.






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