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Toe Convention In Alignment Printouts

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#1 Bakazan



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Posted 12 November 2019 - 02:44 PM

Can anyone confirm if convention is that negative toe always equals toe out?

I have a printout where it is potentially confusing as the measurement is shown ahead of the axle on the front and behind the axle on the rear.

I'm sure this is a silly question but it just seems an odd way to show it.

I can't seem to embed from Flickr or Imgur so here is a link:


#2 chris_uk


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Posted 12 November 2019 - 05:34 PM

negative toe "-0.20" means toe out, whether its in degrees or minutes etc..


so for clarification, if you was to look down from above, the measurement is based off the front of the wheels (front and back), so if the front of the wheels are pointing away from each other then its toe out, the wheels are pointing outwards if you like, if pointing towards each other then thats toe in and would be "+0.20" sometimes it would be just "0.20" 


Edited by chris_uk, 12 November 2019 - 05:37 PM.

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Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:26 PM

I see your confusion on the printout with the arrows in that picture... 

Negative toe is normally "Toe out" as Cris said, but better ask the shop what is what on that print. :tt:

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 04:06 PM

Thanks for the replies, I'm fairly sure the convention is being followed as Chris suggests. I think it's just me over-analysing how it has been displayed graphically.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:48 PM

Take it for a drive, if it's toeing out it will feel darty/fidgety, if it's toeing in it will feel a bit numb.

Edited by Nev, 15 November 2019 - 06:49 PM.

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:48 AM

If you have circonferencial grooves on your tyres and are not too low, you can measure the distances between lhs and rhs grooves in front of the axle and the same grooves rear of the axle.
So you can hopefully determine if it's in or out ...
Take into account that slight toe may not be readable and that tyres are not perfect.

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