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#1 The Knobs

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:33 PM

Why can we English not have independance from Wales and Scotland and of course NI ?  :D It is called The United Kingdom for a reason( stands to national anthem) and should be kept that way. Leaving Europe is bad enough let alone the UK as separate states, ridiculous. I know it will never happen but why is so much time given to publicising the waffle they churn out?

 

 



#2 techieboy

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:36 PM

Because English nationalism = bad. Everybody elses nationalism = good. Apparently.



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Posted 04 December 2019 - 06:25 PM

Why can we English not have independance from Wales and Scotland and of course NI ? :D It is called The United Kingdom for a reason( stands to national anthem) and should be kept that way. Leaving Europe is bad enough let alone the UK as separate states, ridiculous. I know it will never happen but why is so much time given to publicising the waffle they churn out?

Because you know you need Wales

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 08:10 PM

 

Why can we English not have independance from Wales and Scotland and of course NI ? :D It is called The United Kingdom for a reason( stands to national anthem) and should be kept that way. Leaving Europe is bad enough let alone the UK as separate states, ridiculous. I know it will never happen but why is so much time given to publicising the waffle they churn out?

Because you know you need Wales

 

 

Yup, gotta collect that £6 from the Severn bridges ... oh wait a minute :D
 



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Posted 04 December 2019 - 08:37 PM

I agree - Scottish or Welsh independence should not just e a vote for the Scotts or Welsh, it affects us all...


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 08:47 PM

 

Why can we English not have independance from Wales and Scotland and of course NI ? :D It is called The United Kingdom for a reason( stands to national anthem) and should be kept that way. Leaving Europe is bad enough let alone the UK as separate states, ridiculous. I know it will never happen but why is so much time given to publicising the waffle they churn out?

Because you know you need Wales

 

 

 

Only for the odd Trackday  :lol:


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#7 paul_mck

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 08:50 PM

reminds me of an episode od Third rock from the sun where Nina was going to black power rallies so Dick & Co went to a white power rally and of course everyone hated them



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 03:17 PM

You raise a good point.

However any form of ENP would always be tarnished by association ( even where it did not exists ) with those muppets in the English Defence League etc - AKA far right extremism.

If we could have a decent ENP, middle of the road and inclusive for all who lived in England, it would raise some interesting debates.

Hmmm, England goes it alone and the UK (United Kingdom of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) would by rights get to stay in the EU as the legal entity is the UK is it not?

Hmm. Have we just found a fix for Brexit lol?

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Posted 05 December 2019 - 03:32 PM

Yeah when will it be the time of the white British male!  :rolleyes:



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 03:34 PM

Yeah when will it be the time of the white British male!  :rolleyes:

 

50 years ago lol



#11 techieboy

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Posted 05 December 2019 - 04:01 PM

Yeah when will it be the time of the white British male!  :rolleyes:

 

Ooooh, get you Steve, the wokeness is strong in you. :P :D

 

Me, I'm perfectly comfortable in my white (male) privilege. I wish. :unsure:



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 04:31 PM

 

Yeah when will it be the time of the white British male!  :rolleyes:

 

Ooooh, get you Steve, the wokeness is strong in you. :P :D

 

Me, I'm perfectly comfortable in my white (male) privilege. I wish. :unsure:

 

 

I had my ear chewed off for having white straight male privilege when I was talking about that fact I really dont care who you love be it opposite, same, changed, changed same sex and that its all good :lol:

 

 



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 04:56 PM

It does feel like you can do no right, at times. Say something, you offend someone or some group. Say nothing, you offend someone or some group.

 

I'm properly egalitarian. Everyone can fcuk off as far as I'm concerned. :D



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 09:13 PM

I’m not black. I’m not white. And Im not from Wales despite my name. Not fitting in is me.

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 09:18 AM

I’m not black. I’m not white. And Im not from Wales despite my name. Not fitting in is me.


I'm not fitting in too.

Not fitting into my jeans. My favourite T Shirts. My work shirts. My dinner suit...

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 10:13 AM

It does feel like you can do no right, at times. Say something, you offend someone or some group. Say nothing, you offend someone or some group.

 

I'm properly egalitarian. Everyone can fcuk off as far as I'm concerned. :D

I’m with you on this one Matt. Too many people these days just live to be offended, it seems to be their whole purpose in life.

 

Bring back the 70’s and 80’s when people were just allowed to get on with their life’s without constant fear of interference from brainwashed idiots who don’t really know why they are offended but just feel that they ought to be.



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Posted 06 December 2019 - 10:48 AM

read a post on FB earlier about the TV show Watchmen. Some dick was complaining about the bad reviews of ep1 because people couldnt handle a strong black woman smacking down white supremists. 

 

uh no, it was just confusing as fcuk and hard to follow (still is)



#18 techieboy

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 11:05 AM

I’m with you on this one Matt. Too many people these days just live to be offended, it seems to be their whole purpose in life.


Most of them don't even know what they're offended about. Let alone actually understand the issues in any depth. They just know they're meant to be offended because their mate on Faecesbook or Fcukwitter said they're offended. They jump on the bandwagon and sound like full on zealots for the cause spouting some pre-circulated/pe-formulated murkily sourced list of facts, rapidly followed by another jump to the next bandwagon that comes along.

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 11:06 AM

Bring back the 70’s and 80’s when people were just allowed to get on with their life’s without constant fear of interference from brainwashed idiots who don’t really know why they are offended but just feel that they ought to be.


Yup, Jack Regan and Gene Hunt. They'd sort it between them. :D




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