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[Timbo]

Went to France at the weekend to visit my bro , ended up going to a "Auchan" (French super market). Where i found 5 litres (not 4) of the gold nectar for 33 euro's which roughly works out to 23 quid, which i think is a bargain .

[ianrm]

From memory it's dearer than that for 4 litres in Costco. How many litres did you bring back ? Any restrictions on the amount you can bring back ?

Edited by ianrm, 22 November 2004 - 07:08 PM.

[Foxy]

Doh! I thought you were going to tell us about a bargain phone!

[ianrm]

Doh! I thought you were going to tell us about a bargain phone!

[Timbo]

Yea i know, as soon as i posted it i realised i'd spelt it wrong but couldnt be arsed to change it As far as i know you can bring back as much as you like

[cheeky_chops]

asda were selling 4 litres for 16 or 18 quid last month (seloc post). Might still be some available....

[jimgraham]

Went to France at the weekend to visit my bro , ended up going to a "Auchan" (French super market).
Where i found 5 litres (not 4) of the gold nectar for 33 euro's which roughly works out to 23 quid, which i think is a bargain .

thats fooking cheap.

Wont let on how much i paid for mine!!

[Thorney]

erm........I wouldn't use Mobil 1 in a VXT, espacially a modded one, its too thin for high temp turbos, only use a decent semi synthetic. Sorry mate.

[Bengie]

Isn't the French stuff the motorsport spec viscosity? (5/40W rather than 0/35W)

[ShinyAndy]

The motorsport spec is 15-50 and it is pants too... takes forever to warm up

[Thorney]

Doesn't matter.....its too thin.

[garyk220]

erm........I wouldn't use Mobil 1 in a VXT, espacially a modded one, its too thin for high temp turbos, only use a decent semi synthetic.

Sorry mate.

What is the spec of the oil you use? I've been using A3/B3 5w40 fully synthetic since getting the car. Not Mobil 1, just a cheaper cooking variety. This is within the range specified on the service book.

[Thorney]

Just erring on the side of caution but turbo charged engines which run hot will thin the oil faster (good) but if that temp is maintained then there is the chanve the oil is effectivly blown out of the engine (bad). Semi synthetic takes longer to warm up but due to relatively high heat from our engines we still attain good lubrication. I don't think its a "dont use this oil" type deal but I would recommend a semi rather than a full synthetic. Seeing as its Timbo we're talking about, he's so pikey he'd use chip fat if it saved him £2 so no harm done

[iandhd]

If you change your mind Timbo I'll buy it off you for my n/a

[garyk220]

No worries. I change the oil every 3000 miles, so not too worried about burning a little oil

[rasputin]

okay iam confused with all this oil talk. what oil should i put in my vxr type and make please. iam gunna do the first change at the weekend.

[Thorney]

Any decent semi synthetic

[oilman]

The actual recommended oil for the VX220 is 5w-40 or 10w-40. I wouldn't use a 15w-50 as a bit too viscous for the engine and you will be compromising power delivery, cold start protection and fuel economy. Although synthetics are not essential for a stock road car, they are better lubricants and have many benefits over petroleum oils. More thermally stable at high temps Stay in grade longer Decrease engine wear Better at cooling If you are using your car for track days then I would recommend the use of proper synthetics (ester/pao) as they handle temperatures much better and do not "shear" as easily as petroleum oils giving prolonged levels of protection. It's worth bearing in mind the following when choosing your oil as most people equate thickness with protection and using an oil that's too thick can cause damage to your engine: Surely the thicker the oil the better! This isn't always true - even when using a petroleum oil. Although it is true that heavier viscosity oils (which are generally thought of as being thicker) will hold up better under heavy loads and high temperatures, this doesn't necessarily make them a better choice for all applications. On many newer vehicles only 0w-40, 5w40 or 10w40 engine oils are recommended by the manufacturer. If you choose to use a higher viscosity oil than what is recommended, at the very least you are likely to reduce performance of the engine. Fuel economy will likely go down and engine performance will drop. In the winter months it is highly recommended that you not use a heavier grade oil than what is recommended by the manufacturer. In cold start conditions you could very well be causing more engine wear than when using a lighter viscosity oil. In the summer months, going to a heavier grade is less of an issue, but there are still some things to be aware of. Moving one grade up from the recommended viscosity is not likely to cause any problems (say from a 10w40 to a 10w50 oil). The differences in pumping and flow resitance will be slight. Although, efficiency of the engine will decrease, the oil will likely still flow adequately through the engine to maintain proper protection. However, it will not likely protect any better than the lighter weight oil recommended by the manufacturer. Moving two grades up from the recommended viscosity (say 10w40 to 10w-60) is a little more extreme and could cause long term engine damage if not short term. Although the oil will still probably flow ok through the engine, it is a heavier visocosity oil. As such it will be more difficult to pump the oil through the engine. More friction will be present than with a lighter viscosity oil. More friction means more heat. In other words, by going to a thicker oil in the summer months, you may actually be causing more heat build-up within the engine. You'll still be providing adequate protection from metal to metal contact in the engine by going with a high viscosity, but the higher viscosity will raise engine temperatures. In the short run, this is no big deal. However, over the long term, when engine components are run at higher temperatures, they WILL wear out more quickly. As such, if you intend on keeping the vehicle for awhile, keep this in mind if you're considering using a heavier weight oil than the manufacturer recommends. The best advice is to is to stay away from viscosity grades that are not mentioned in your owner's manual. If I can be of help then please feel free to ask. Cheers Simon

[jimgraham]

The actual recommended oil for the VX220 is 5w-40 or 10w-40.

If you look in your manual you'll find that 0W-40 is in there as well.

in fact it is the only oil reccomended for the whole temperature range all the way down to very low temperatures.

Just a thought as Mobile 1 do some good 0W-40 supersynth stuff, which i have put in my engine

Basically oil viscosity changes with heat (think of what happens to olive oil when you heat it in a frying pan at home), so oil gets thicker in cold temperatures (generally) and thinner in hot temperatures.

Each engine has an optimum oil viscosity that has been used to specify things like bearings, filters and oil pumps. The optimum oil viscosity does not vary with temperature. so the type of oil you should put in an engine depends on the temperature where you live. Generally people living in cold climates will use a much lighter oil than people living in hot.



Jim

Edited by jimgraham, 23 November 2004 - 02:13 PM.

[oilman]

It's mentioned in the lists I looked up as well but the difference between 0w and 5w and 10w is somewhat meaningless in the UK. 0w has to pour at -35 degC 5w has to pour at -30 degC 10w has to pour at -25 degC These are the only differences as they would all give sae 40 protection when hot. Cheers Simon