Just read through this and all i can say is theres a sh*t load of bolllox posted by people who should know better, have their own commercial interests at heart and obviously know very little about the team involved in setting this series up.
I am sorry to say I really don't know what that paragraph means - certainly I have no related commercial interest.
Both myself and others involved have obviously wasted many hours talking to a few people on here who have not listened to whats been said - will have words with you directly if you turn up at brands on Monday
Don't know about others but I listened to what I was told by a number of sources and have found inconsistencies in the individual remarks and across the group. One then tries to make sense of it by comparing with one's experience and with the normal rules of conduct. Some of it still seems worrying and one will be glad of enlightenment.
Cyberman in particular if you don't like the way we are doing things then Graham has recommended 2 other series you can race in suggest you'd better go and look at those as you don't sound like you're looking for the same thing as us - why arn't you looking at those series anyway?
The issue is that no one I respect appears able to spell out quite what you are looking for. I had heard that an Elise tub based race series was on the cards - it sounded good to me. Then I heard more and some of it seemed wrong and possibly dangerous. Or incompatible with competitive racing as I understand it. I know I'm out of date but I have owned and driven AF2 and AF1 cars, held a full International race licence and been a CAMS examiner. It may not make me smart but I can spell "wheel to wheel".
As to running in another series, subject to the exigencies of other agencies I do plan to be out before season's end: hopefully in the VxT if we can make it a. competitive and b. reliable.
At the moment only a handfull of Elises - not sure how many VX220's if any, are racing in the UK - you can count the number of elises on the grid for the last 2 rounds of the mid engineed series on one hand so there has to be something wrong with those series. We are setting up a series that will potentially get some of hundreds of track day elises we have in LoT onto the grid. If we get the formula right for our members then great if not then you can come on and slate it but until then if you don't like what we are doing go and set your own series up, or support a series like the mid-engineed which at the end of the day needs new blood.
I think your intent is laudable and I believe I have already said so. I am concerned that where you mix cars of very different performance (e.g. 360bhp Audi engined S1s and 120bhp K S1s) and novice race drivers that there is potential for a serious shunt. You appear not to believe this: I hope you are right but I don't know how you can be. I have had two good friends die in race cars through no fault of their own and quite a number come damned close. Accidents happen in the best regulated circles. However carefully weeded people cannot be coerced or cajoled into behaving flawlessly on a track.
Hope to see cyberman and graham on monday evening so that we can put a few things to bed and stop having to waste our time talking to people who obviously don't listen to what they are told putting that time into our real members.
Perhaps you would answer one question: one of your organisers has said to me "I hate the idea that you are thinking of building up a spare car" - as if one might be banned (sorry, not invited) for doing so. Yet this chap (and at least 2 others) plans to run a car in the series and enjoys a commercial facility allowing them to rebuild a bent car in a week. How many 10 race series have you seen where a bent car doesn't some time arise? Is any privateer who can compete on an even basis (by pre-building a spare) to be disallowed?
You need to answer that carefully: either its racing fair and even, or its a bent series in which some may play with a senatorial advantage or its pattycake and you need some elephants to make up the parade. Which is it to be?
Edited by cyberman, 24 June 2006 - 10:57 PM.