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[speedster]

I know Piper have their Z22SE cams and Courtenay are selling Schrick.... can't find any in the TMS shop.... Anybody know of any other cam retailer? (UK or Europe)

Edited by speedster, 07 June 2007 - 07:35 AM.

[minime]

you can try kent cams, cat cams, dbilas

[VIX]

TMS also use Schrick cams for their higher end NA and Turbo power upgrades.

[slindborg]

maybe try autosprint for regrinds.... if catcams make something for the z22se then id have that over any other cam maker.... they have awesome results in european racing. oh Newman might do something, worth a shout.

[alanoo]

Schrick one are certainly the most aggressive and powerful available ones for the moment

[luna_s]

i got piper cams, took 6 weeks to get reground

[speedster]

Thanks people!

Schrick one are certainly the most aggressive and powerful available ones for the moment

Don't the Shreks require some cylinder head work for fitment?

[paulf-cam]

Thought you already had turbo cams from dude's engine?

[vocky]

saab turbo cams are most likely standard cams, they might have a different sprocket to alter the timing slightly. turbo's tend to use very mild cams due to valve overlap issues pipercams are cheap and work well, these are your own cams reground / metal sprayed. schrick are double the price, these are new. not much else available 'off the shelf'

[speedster]

Thought you already had turbo cams from dude's engine?

Yup! I do. That's my SC build. Am looking for cam for my NA setup. Rather than destorying my NA I might be dropping the SC plant into a different chassis!

[speedster]

saab turbo cams are most likely standard cams, they might have a different sprocket to alter the timing slightly.

turbo's tend to use very mild cams due to valve overlap issues

pipercams are cheap and work well, these are your own cams reground / metal sprayed.

schrick are double the price, these are new.

not much else available 'off the shelf'

Dude reckons the turbo cams are very close to standard but with a longer ramp

back to the NA...

Dbilas have the following cams
Duration: 264
Peak timing: 115/105
Valve lift: 10,8
Lift at TDC: 0,6/1,4
Valve timing (IO/IC - EO/EC) : 17/67 - 57/27


Piper are less aggressive
Duration : 260 deg
Inlet valve lift : .423"/10.74mm
Exhaust valve lift : .423"/10.74mm
Valve timing (IO/IC - EO/EC): 23-63/63-23
Inlet full lift (ATDC) : 110 deg
Exhaust full lift (BTDC) : 110 deg

[robfenn]

if catcams make something for the z22se then id have that over any other cam maker.... they have awesome results in european racing.

[speedster]

Catcams have a nice selection.

Key
part #
duration [0.1mm+cl]
duration [1.0mm+cl]
maximum lift [cl=0]
lift at TDC [cl=0]
parts (followers retainers springs)
application


Cams

4603111
242 / 242°
206 / 206°
10.20 / 10.20mm
0.60 / 0.60mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: sport

4603112
253 / 253°
214 / 214°
10.50 / 10.50mm
0.90 / 0.90mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: sport

4603116
259 / 242°
222 / 206°
10.75 / 10.20mm
1.20 / 0.60mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: sport (turbo)

4603113
259 / 259°
222 / 222°
10.75 / 10.75mm
1.20 / 1.20mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: sport

4603114
267 / 267°
230 / 230°
10.75 / 10.75mm
1.80 / 1.80mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: rally & cross

4603115
277 / 277°
239 / 239°
10.75 / 10.75mm
2.50 / 2.50mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: rally & cross

4603251
286 / 286°
243 / 243°
11.60 / 11.60mm
2.80 / 2.80mm
custom
MECH: rally & cross

4603252
300 / 300°
252 / 252°
12.10 / 12.10mm
3.30 / 3.30mm
custom
MECH: rally & cross

4603253
306 / 306°
260 / 260°
12.10 / 12.10mm
3.85 / 3.85mm
custom
MECH: rally & cross

4603254
313 / 313°
268 / 268°
12.10 / 12.10mm
4.35 / 4.35mm
custom
MECH: rally & cross

Edited by speedster, 07 June 2007 - 01:08 PM.

[slindborg]

for N/A road/track use I'd say these were the nuts 4603113 259 / 259° 222 / 222° 10.75 / 10.75mm 1.20 / 1.20mm O.E.M. HYDR: sport although I quite like 270deg cams (but the way catcams list their profiles the 259 is fairly comprable to a piper/kent advertised 260-270deg anyway... 1.2mm lift @ tdc is ncie and safe to not need piston work. cant beat the sould of a solid valve train though

[robfenn]

Nice one for finding them... something to add to the 'Want but can never afford' list.

[markv]

From my notes list I have the following links to companies that seem to sell cams for the 2.2:

http://www.moto-conc.../de/autos/opel/
http://www.mantapart.com/ecotec.html
http://www.courtenay....uk/default.htm
http://www.dbilas-dynamic.de/
http://www.imotecgmbh.de/
http://www.gozzoli.it/
http://www.vmox.de/html/z22se.html
http://www.pipercams.co.uk/
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
http://www.schrick.com/
http://www.kentcams.com/
http://www.catcams.be/
http://www.turbotech...&idproduct=2450

Also have all the cams from the above links in a list, which makes it easier to compare. Currently about 50 different cams...

Mark

[speedster]

From my notes list I have the following links to companies that seem to sell cams for the 2.2:

http://www.moto-conc.../de/autos/opel/
http://www.mantapart.com/ecotec.html
http://www.courtenay....uk/default.htm
http://www.dbilas-dynamic.de/
http://www.imotecgmbh.de/
http://www.gozzoli.it/
http://www.vmox.de/html/z22se.html
http://www.pipercams.co.uk/
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
http://www.schrick.com/
http://www.kentcams.com/
http://www.catcams.be/
http://www.turbotech...&idproduct=2450

Also have all the cams from the above links in a list, which makes it easier to compare. Currently about 50 different cams...

Mark

[Thorney]

We use the Schrick ones (and stock em) but we're looking at different options on the race cars now and we want to go madder

[speedster]

We use the Schrick ones (and stock em) but we're looking at different options on the race cars now and we want to go madder

Whats the spec on the Schricks? Got a spare flowed cylinder head lying around in TMS that you'd prep and dump a set in for me?

Any hints as to how madder your thinking of going?

[Thorney]

We've got two prepped race heads ready go with Schricks in at the moment, one is due for the TB car. Looking for a longer duration and lift cam at the moment for the race cars but the numbers we're looking at wouldn't really suit for a road car package so I'd still recommend the Schricks.